Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season
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That would be funny.
I like the idea that it might only be the appearance of age that she can change. That make it more likely that the little girl is her.
I could live with that.
I had a thought (yes, yet another one). A lot of, shall we say, click bait articles, have posited this will dwarf The Red Wedding. I think the authors of said articles completely missed the point. Unless you were familiar with the books, The Red Wedding was a truly shocking moment. When my partner and I binge watched the first three seasons prior to S4 starting, we were both absolutely shocked. As if Ned losing his head wasn't enough of a gobsmacking moment.
Here, it seems obvious that THIS is the opportunity to cut down the cast to a select plot-armored favs. But why? It's rather easy to logically deduce who is not going to be required for the remainder of the story. I just feel it's too easy now to tick off who is going to die.
Don't get me wrong; it's going to result in appalling losses (Unsullied, Dothraki, Northeners), but I don't think just killing off our favorite characters is all GoT is (don't laugh). I think for the characters that do bite the bullet, it will at least come with some poignancy. I doubt it'll be Brienne dead, cut to Greyworm, dead, cut to Davos, dead. I don't mean to simplify, but I hope you get my point.
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There are a lot of things that people are postulating for the next four episodes that are based entirely on misconceptions and/or downright untruths, and it's frustrating to me to have to listen to said misconceptions or untruths being regurgitated in podcast form when all I want to do is hear people discuss and recap the current season.
Well you just can’t always have things your own way. I actually enjoy trying to work out what is going to happen in future episode based on what has happen in the show (and to a lesser extent talking about the books). I do occasionally listen to a podcast or two and I follow some YouTube channels. I discount most theories but I think that the theory that Melisandre will turn up in time for the Battle of Winterfell is a good one. She stated both her and Varys will die in Westeros and it makes no sense for her to turn up after the war.
Simple solution. Don’t listen to the podcasts and just wait for the next episode. Works pretty well if one gives it a try.
^ I've already decided on this course of action, but it still bugs me that I can't listen to certain podcasts that I would like to just because the people hosting them haven't bothered to do some basic research.
I could live with that.
I had a thought (yes, yet another one). A lot of, shall we say, click bait articles, have posited this will dwarf The Red Wedding. I think the authors of said articles completely missed the point. Unless you were familiar with the books, The Red Wedding was a truly shocking moment. When my partner and I binge watched the first three seasons prior to S4 starting, we were both absolutely shocked. As if Ned losing his head wasn't enough of a gobsmacking moment.
Here, it seems obvious that THIS is the opportunity to cut down the cast to a select plot-armored favs. But why? It's rather easy to logically deduce who is not going to be required for the remainder of the story. I just feel it's too easy now to tick off who is going to die.
I sometimes wish I had not read the books before starting the show. I knew that Ned and Robb were going to die and it did spoil the impact. I like that we can still make educated guesses who will die but not be sure. I do think we will lose some major characters next episode and I expect some of the secondary characters to surprise us and survive.
I guess that basic research can include the books, interviews with cast members and GRR Martin, looking at the show, talking about historical events that influenced GRR Martin, researching weaponry. I have not come across many theories that don’t have some grain of truth behind them. Possibly I failed to subscribe to the less reliable channels/podcast years ago.
I'll give you two:
1) Jon is immune to fire because he's a Targaryen (some basic research would reveal that Targaryens are not immune to fire and that Dany's ability to survive flames is unique to her and has nothing to do with her family bloodline)
2) The Battle of Winterfell is going to feature a literal battle of "ice and fire" between Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion since the latter is an "ice dragon" (some basic research would reveal that Viserion is not an "ice dragon" but is in fact an undead dragon that breathes blue fire)
Both of these are ideas that I have heard promoted on fairly mainstream podcasts within the past couple of weeks.
To be fair, we don't know if they are misconceptions right now. Lot's of speculation for sure. We'll have to see how things actually go on the show.
I have no doubt that she'll turn up. I wasn't sure when and where, and what role she'll play. I'm still not sure. But, your theory is an interesting possibility.
Daenerys does seem to have had some immunity to heat from the beginning as shown by her walking into the very hot bath in the first episode. However whenever someone suggests that Jon might have immunity to fire I quickly point at the Jon’s hand was burned when he grabbed the lantern from Jeor Mormont to throw is at the wight.
I have never come across the ice dragon theory. I have come across a theory saying there is a sleeping dragon under Winterfell but I think that is more of a theory about the books.
Jon being immune to fire because he's a Targaryen and Viserion being an "ice dragon" are very much misconceptions and patently untrue.
There's speculation and then there's regurgitating falsehoods that make it impossible to listen to the discussions in which said falsehoods are brought up.
Here's my predictions:
- Dany and Jon will both survive the battle. They got shit to work out yet.
- Bran now has plot armor to survive till the end
- I do not believe Sansa or Arya will die either. Nothing about them screams "unfinished business" - it's just a feeling
- Either Jaime or Tyrion - possibly both - will survive the battle, because one of them is fated to strangle Cercei due to the witch's prophecy
- The Hound must survive for Cleganebowl
- Varys survives because they haven't done shit with him yet, and a shocking twist is likely coming
- Sam survives because he's a GRRM self-insert. Gilly and little Sam too.
- Lyanna Mormont survives because she's a badass little girl
- Likeliest deaths in the battle: Jorah, Davos, Theon, Brienne, Tormund, Gendry, Gray Worm, Beric Dondarrion, Edd, Podrick
I can't speak to these podcasts you're so ironically disgusted by for making bad predictions, but I have never heard anyone refer to Viserion as an Ice Dragon in a literal sense, as if it actually breathes ice instead of blue fire. Obviously that's not the case or the Night King would have just added an extra coating of ice to the Wall. I have heard lots of people refer to it as an Ice Dragon in the figurative sense because it's a blue zombie dragon that breathes blue fire and is ridden by a blue zombie rider who brings the frozen storm with him, however.
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