Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

[Alan Roi]

JJ wanted a planet explosion just like in his favorite IP..., Star Wars.
He actually managed to get two in the same movie and outdo Lucas.

But then JJ also got to make a Star Wars movie and managed to destroy an entire star system as well as blow up a planet.

Still plays distant second fiddle to the showrunner for Lexx in my mind. He destroyed an entire universe.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Sorry but these writers lack the creativity to look ahead 950 years and create a universe, they just dont

So you're saying it would be Star Trek?

 

[Refuge]

Sorry but these writers lack the creativity to look ahead 950 years and create a universe, they just dont

I think they're going to be seriously challenged because up until now they have had to milk old Trek and its characters to carry it. Now they will have a clean slate more or less. I think it's a good idea to go forward.

 

[Midquest]

What blows my mind is that where before people critiqued the show for being a prequel, there's now a flood of people online saying, "Oh, so now they're just copying Voyager?!"

You just can't win.

 

[BillJ]

What blows my mind is that where before people critiqued the show for being a prequel, there's now a flood of people online saying, "Oh, so now they're just copying Voyager?!"

You just can't win.

I'm interested in where there going, leery of the writing staff being able to put together a coherent compelling narrative.

So I'm torn.

 

[Midquest]

I think that's reasonable. I just don't envy them the task of satisfying the fanbase, with its multiple and conflicting points of reference.

 

[BillJ]

I just don't envy them the task of satisfying the fanbase, with its multiple and conflicting points of reference.

They knew the danger when they accepted the job.

 

[Lord Garth]

Sorry but these writers lack the creativity to look ahead 950 years and create a universe, they just dont

"Why even bother, McFly? You don't have a chance. You're too much like your Old Man. No McFly ever amounted to anything in the history of Hill Valley."

 

[Lord Garth]

What blows my mind is that where before people critiqued the show for being a prequel, there's now a flood of people online saying, "Oh, so now they're just copying Voyager?!"

You just can't win.

Nothing I haven't seen before. I remember the DS9 days. Trying to remember what someone said, because it's been over 20 years... This is what they said, circa 1996 (my first year online)...

"Season 1 and 2: We're about the Bajorans, the Cardassians, the Maquis, and bringing Bajor into the Federation."
"Season 3: No we're not! We're about the Dominion and Shape-Shifters!"
"Season 4: No we're not! We're about Worf and war with the Klingons!"

I can just picture the same people who had a problem with DSC S1 having a problem with DS9 S4, with its focus on the Klingons. I remember people either loved DS9 Season 4, didn't like it because it "completely shifted focus" away from the first two seasons, or hated it because it wasn't Gene's Vision. Good thing the Dominion War hadn't happened yet!

Typing this post just made me feel old.

 

[Refuge]

What blows my mind is that where before people critiqued the show for being a prequel, there's now a flood of people online saying, "Oh, so now they're just copying Voyager?!"

You just can't win.

I for one would not criticise a copy of Voyager... be a bloody improvement!

 

[Alan Roi]

Nothing I haven't seen before. I remember the DS9 days. Trying to remember what someone said, because it's been over 20 years... This is what they said, circa 1996 (my first year online)...

"Season 1 and 2: We're about the Bajorans, the Cardassians, the Maquis, and bringing Bajor into the Federation."
"Season 3: No we're not! We're about the Dominion and Shape-Shifters!"
"Season 4: No we're not! We're about Worf and war with the Klingons!"

I can just picture the same people who had a problem with DSC S1 having a problem with DS9 S4, with its focus on the Klingons. I remember people either loved DS9 Season 4, didn't like it because it "completely shifted focus" away from the first two seasons, or hated it because it wasn't Gene's Vision. Good thing the Dominion War hadn't happened yet!

Typing this post just made me feel old.

IMO, you're only as old as you act.

 

[Alan Roi]

I for one would not criticise a copy of Voyager... be a bloody improvement!

The first season of Space 1999 certainly offered better execution of the concept. As did Fantastic Journey. As did Red Dwarf. As did the first season of the original Battlestar Galactica and maybe the first season of the reboot. As did Farscape. Did I miss any?

 

[Starflight]

Ooh, I absolutely love Red Dwarf, especially the first two series, but it ditched its original concept just as fast as Voyager did. Three million years into deep space and no signs of human life anywhere, but after series 2 we're constantly finding prison colonies, wax-droid worlds, GELFs, science stations and simulants all over the place...

 

[BillJ]

IMO, you're only as old as you act.

Good God, I'm 78!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Good God, I'm 78!

Low balling it, Bill. You're in your 80's.
I am a short attention span millennial who's a sucker for pew pew. (At least that's what DISCO critics probably think).

 

[Lord Garth]

Not Discovery, but I just bought a ticket to see "What We Left Behind" in the theater on May 13th. DS9 in HD on the big screen!

 

[urbandk]

Not Discovery, but I just bought a ticket to see "What We Left Behind" in the theater on May 13th. DS9 in HD on the big screen!

Same. I'm seriously grateful for all the good trek stuff we've got going on these days. Much better than things were when Enterprise was winding down and nemesis was a catastrophe.

 

[Refuge]

Same. I'm seriously grateful for all the good trek stuff we've got going on these days. Much better than things were when Enterprise was winding down and nemesis was a catastrophe.

In my opinion downgrading Enterprise or Nemesis is unnecessary. Maybe when, or rather if Discovery gets to the episode count Enterprise did then maybe she can compare. 29 episodes in two seasons ...

 

[Agony_Boothb]

In my opinion downgrading Enterprise or Nemesis is unnecessary. Maybe when, or rather if Discovery gets to the episode count Enterprise did then maybe she can compare. 29 episodes in two seasons ...

Why exactly does the amount of episodes matter? TOS had 79 and spawned a 50 year franchise.

 

[Refuge]

Why exactly does the amount of episodes matter? TOS had 79 and spawned a 50 year franchise.

It shows popularity.