I’ve just noticed from that pic that I’ve still haven’t received my spacedock model and I paid for it months ago. It’s not even on the site anymore.
A nice comparison chart is always welcome. Then I scrolled down and saw the Discovery Klingon vessels from last season, they look worse every time I see them and belong in the trash. No official size yet for the new D7 not that i mind as anything is an improvement. The Vengeance makes up for their presence though, the J looks bloody stupid and for some reason makes me crave Pizza, the F is not too bad and its a shame we wont see one in the Picard series as its too early.
Since you only ever see a couple examples of each and then Klingons are not currently unified, I think they work as overly ornate Klingon House flagships.
totally. personally, i would’ve loved a little more continuity between them. but some of these ships do look klingon. a few of us (myself included) got a little too butt hurt over these ships which in hindsight hardly even appeared in season one.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was to similar scale as the Connie. So take whatever commonly accepted length for the D7, and scale it up to the same amount the Connie was.
That scale chart looks surprisingly acceptable as far as things of that nature go... What I can't fathom is why the "transport shuttlecraft" from the 2009 movie, the one they actually had a full-sized prop for, is declared 7 meters long. Didn't they watch the movie where dozens of people were seated inside that one? They get the scales of the parallel mock-up-and-model-only shuttles right... And the views of those are very nice, when no other source seems to provide proper three-views or even good beauty shots. Have all these things been released in model form? Of note is that only three of those ships actually fought in the war: the BoP, the big boy Qugh, and the flat big brother to D7 the Qoj. All the rest just attended T'Kumva's show-and-tell at the Binaries. Or played a secondary role behind the lines - namely, L'Rell's prison ship. Might then be those aren't flagships, even. They could be just random semi-civilian junk that happened to be cruising close to the Binaries when the Light of Kahless began to shine, and got to represent their respective Houses for that reason. I mean, we may have seen 24 ships, but we didn't see 24 House leaders, and the handful we saw were but holograms, perhaps calling from their palaces after their skipper-on-the-spot had reported back on the Light thing. I'd still like to get proper models (that is, the associated online views - I'm not collecting!) of the whole Klingon Gothic fleet. Timo Saloniemi
Okay, so the new D7 going by the "Scale it up by almost half" Diso fever logic.. so 220m, add 110, so 330meters long! >_<
I, uh, really like both of these theories, and totally going to steal them for my head-canon! Because I really hated the season 1 Klingon ship designs, and having the Sarcophagus ship be as big as the Fesarius or a Borg cube still seems stupid. But I always thought that it would be nice for Star Trek ships to have wildly more variety in size depending on the ships purpose - as in, all the Starfleet/Klingon/Romulan multi-purpose-military-ships (like the Enterprises/D7/Warbirds of each era) should be in the same size category for physics reasons. But that ships with completely different mission specifics should be wildly different - say, transport vessels and tankers that are a multitude larger (because they don't need to be versatile or maneoverable), civilian ships that are much smaller (because they only need space for the crews, no fancy top-of-the-line technological equipment, shuttlebays etc.), and stuff like coastguard-sized ships foor patrolling space. The super-sized Klingon ships of season 1 can literally be the "home bases" - generation ships - of some of the houses. Both versatile in battle (though only matching a smaller sized one-purpose-Federation ship), but also carrying ressources and civilians along as well. OR some others just being giant tankers and "civillian" vessels that aren't really a match for battle-ships - but even Klingon "civilians" probably carry a few weapons around and follow any call to arms.
Heck, I'd be willing to declare the D letters a size category thing. The D4 is tiny, but there's still room at the bottom for assorted scoutcraft and shuttles. The D5 is just the right sort of bit bigger to establish basically linear progression through unseen D6 to D7 - all sorts of D7, including the prison ship of a distinct design. The Qoj could be a D10, then, along with the Qugh and many of the Gothics... And frontier wars might be fought by smallish scouts such as the assorted D7s and the Constitutions (that is, cruisers) while big wars would bring out the D10 range and its Starfleet counterparts (that is, battleships). Perhaps all alien adversary ships are classified that way, with Romulans having B numbers (Worf seems to think they fly a class B warbird in TNG) and so forth... Timo Saloniemi
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...The thing next to the wormhole in the trailer to the season finale looks a lot like the cleave ship. Although this would be the least likely Klingon design for the show to revisit. It is a logical way for T'Kumva to make use of his first invisibility device, much like oddball monitors and rams were a prudent first use for the new technologies of steam and armor even though they had zero future in naval warfare. If you can't fire when invisible, how can you fight? Well, this is how. But then you learn how to fire immediately after decloaking, how to recloak, how to do tactics. And there will be no more cleave ships... Although perhaps the actual cleave is an add-on, and the spine is a preexisting design we will see again? Non-warships like the two models above are just about the coolest aspect to the Eaglemoss collection IMHO. Timo Saloniemi
The cleave ship is such a ridiculous concept. I prefer to think that the design is actually some sort of a tug, and it usually carries cargo containers instead of a giant blade. This configuration is just a result of jury rigging by some overly imaginative Klingon MacGyver.
In Star Trek Online, Klingon cleave ships are a regular staple of their 2256 era fleet, and behave like normal battleships. Except for the ability to uncloak and ram, destroying a target immediately.
...Whereas in the actual show, the cleave ship is a one-off, a pretty natural thing to have for demonstrating the cloak even if useless for any other purpose. Timo Saloniemi
But it only had a cloak after T’Kuvma united the houses. So before that, any of these ships would have been useless for a sneak attack.
Conversely, if the ship design had nothing to do with fighting originally, T'Kumva would have had an easier time acquiring one, and then welding a giant blade onto it for the ultimate demonstration of inimitably Klingon fighting prowess. The whole point seemed to be that T'Kumva had no fighting vessels, just a flying cemetery and then this flying sword, their symbolic value then hopefully securing him a fighting fleet from the other Houses. Timo Saloniemi