Those numbers are wrong.Oh shit I'll have to edit my other post but found this ship chart
From Ex-Astris-Scientia
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The Enterprise is only 288m long, which scales all the other ships to much smaller then they listed.
Those numbers are wrong.Oh shit I'll have to edit my other post but found this ship chart
From Ex-Astris-Scientia
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Unfortunately, that graphic was created before They redid the size numbers and was it was never corrected because ... Money.Those numbers are wrong.
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The Enterprise is only 288m long, which scales all the other ships to much smaller then they listed.
That graphic was on screen in the show.Unfortunately, that graphic was created before They redid the size numbers and was it was never corrected because ... Money.
(also, it's pretty much a copy/paste from the Original Tech Manual)
The numbers from Eaglemoss are the corrected Official numbers given to them by CBS.
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That graphic was on screen in the show.
Which trumps everything else so far as canon is concerned.
The canon length for the Constitution class from TOS was also 288 meters.However the graphic of the Enterprise contradicts the one they actually showed. For example it does not have the swept back warp nacelles. There have been so many instances where the group making the graphics, and the one making the vfx have not been on the same page.
Yeah, that particular number was never actually STATED ONSCREEN..., EVER.The canon length for the Constitution class from TOS was also 288 meters.
And given the VFX guys just had torpedo's shooting out of the ships nacelles, I am going to go with the named on screen length over some estimation by guys not really connected to the setting.
I guess They figured They might as well keep up the appearances of confusing the Hell out of Their viewing audience for the last 54 years.That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
I saw "the comedian" it dragged. It seemed like a ho-hum episode from the 80's run with a lot of profanity thrown in just to make sure watching it with your family is a non-option.
... who may hear more profanity hanging out with his school buddies, than anything he hears on TV.I thought it was about ten minutes too long. Though I didn't have any issues watching it with my wife and 11 year old son.
That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
Maybe that graphic came from the Enterprise while all her systems were screwed up by the Holo-communications upgrade?If they didn't have the "(429 onboard)," obviously excluding Spock, I would just chalk it up to 430 being the optimal, expected capacity of the Enterprise at launch (and achieved in Kirk's era), but the practicalities of Pike's mission, and perhaps his command style, greatly streamlined the crew to the bare necessity.
So, 203 is the "full complement" because their are 203 personnel assigned to the Enterprise. Whereas, 430 was the planned complement for the ship. But the graphic stating how many were onboard throws all of that out the window.
As with many things, the length is subject to changeYeah, that particular number was never actually STATED ONSCREEN..., EVER.
So YMMV.
Also, using where any of the weapons come from as a form of proof is more than very problematic, since we've seen that kinda thing since TOS with all of the SpFx's.
I'm personally not happy either with what They (CBS) have concluded are the Official sizes, but I don't make the show, I just enjoy it.
Again, YMMV.
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Heh...As with many things, the length is subject to change![]()
We're not talking about fishing here.Heh...
I would have said subject to exaggeration.
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Depends on what one is fishing for.We're not talking about fishing here.
Dialog outweighs graphical information and graphical information outweighs random statement by graphics designers.That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
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