Supergirl - Season Four

[Guy Gardener]

In the early 90s Peter Parker dressed as Spider-Man (unmasked) was caught on film, taking pictures of himself in a staged situation, as Spider-Man.

J. Jonah Jamison's conclusion was that Peter was a fraud who must have been selling fake pictures of a fake Spider-Man to the Bugle for YEARS.

Peter lost his job.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I was wondering why Clark and Lois weren’t at Lex’s trial but I suppose that was for the best.

If Lois and Clark (Perry, Cat, Lana and Steve Lombard, or maybe even Lacy Warfield from Superman IV?) were witnesses, they may have been waiting out in the hall, a safe room, or at a remote location to tele-presence their testimony.

Pillow talk.

Mon-El might have said something weirdly inhuman about Kara after he shtupped Eve back in season 2.

But my head cannon is that Luthor figured out Clark's secret identity pretty quickly, and did not care.

The privilege may be invoked in either criminal or civil proceedings. The maritalconfidences privilege only applies to communications made during marriage and cannot be invoked for communications before marriage, or after divorce. The privilege survives divorce so one spouse may prevent an ex-spouse from testifying.Jul 27, 2010

I wonder if Lex and Lois were married in this continuity, and if they were married at specific moments, that she was not in a position to tell the court entirely everything that she new about Lex Luthor's diabolical shennigans?

 

[Charles Phipps]

As DAYS OF OUR LIVES taught me, "A spouse doesn't have to testify but that doesn't mean she can't."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Avengers vs. Justice League revealed that Metropolis doesn't exist on Earth-616 (surprise, surprise) so that it's mostly just empty field. Also, that Earth-1 is actually a quarter larger in land mass than "our" Earth with more countries.

But speaking as an author, I think we may be overthinking this.

That was a major eye roll moment for me. I don't know what Busiek was thinking.

 

[Christopher]

That was a major eye roll moment for me. I don't know what Busiek was thinking.

Trying to reconcile the fact that the DC Universe includes all the real countries and cities in the world along with all the many, many different fictional analogs they accumulated over the decades -- like having New York City, Metropolis, and Gotham City even though they're all based on the same city. It's an awkward way to reconcile it, but at least he was trying to acknowledge all of it in a self-consistent way.

I'm reminded of the original Mission: Impossible TV series. Back in the '60s and '70s, network censors didn't like shows to openly acknowledge real-world politics, so M:I tended to either set its stories in nameless Eastern European, Middle Eastern, or Latin American countries, or else (after the first few seasons) set them in countries with made-up names like "Eastern European People's Republic" or whatnot. It got to the point where Eastern Europe in the M:I-verse had to be either absurdly huge or absurdly full of tiny countries.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Trying to reconcile the fact that the DC Universe includes all the real countries and cities in the world along with all the many, many different fictional analogs they accumulated over the decades -- like having New York City, Metropolis, and Gotham City even though they're all based on the same city. It's an awkward way to reconcile it, but at least he was trying to acknowledge all of it in a self-consistent way.

I know why, I just think it was too fannish an idea to put in professional work. Plus Marvel is overrun with its own fictional countries. From Latveria to Wakanda to Sin-Cong. Marvel's Balkans must be more Balkanized than the real Balkans.

 

[theenglish]

It might have made more sense just to increase the population of the U.S. by 100 million people or so. Add a few people to the West and reduce the population of India and/or China for example.

 

[Christopher]

I know why, I just think it was too fannish an idea to put in professional work. Plus Marvel is overrun with its own fictional countries. From Latveria to Wakanda to Sin-Cong. Marvel's Balkans must be more Balkanized than the real Balkans.

But at least Marvel generally portrays real US cities. DC's problem is that it didn't have a consistent policy there, so it came up with tons of fictional US cities but still mentioned the real ones from time to time as well.

Come to think of it, Arrowverse Earth-1 has a similar issue. It mentions all the big made-up DC cities -- Star City, Central City, Ivy Town, Coast City, Gotham City, etc. -- but it's folded in Constantine, which was set in real US cities, and Legends of Tomorrow tends to feature real cities in stories set in the past.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Never had a problem with DC fictional cities. Gives them more leeway. Marvel really went off model when JJJ and later the Kingpin became Mayor of New York

 

[JanewayRulz!]

I rewatched it today and paid more attention to the timing at the base of the screen.

The Kaznians had the SG copy 3 months before they called Lex, I am amazed they survived that long.

Since Lex is pulling Ben Lockwood's strings, he would know about the impending Aerosolized Kryptonite plan and been able to have that chamber prepared ahead of time to put "Not-Kara" into until sis cleared the atmosphere. That chamber was even thoughtfully stocked with propaganda a'la Lex Luthor to further indoctrinate "Not-Kara" to his way of thinking.

I wonder what those earrings do that he tagged her with... simple comms seem unlikely. I wonder if its a torture device for Kryptonians in case she rebels, or a tracking device in case she escapes. Heck, those earrings might be how Eve knew she was looking at a fake Kara in the elevator with Lena.

 

[Christopher]

I wonder what those earrings do that he tagged her with... simple comms seem unlikely. I wonder if its a torture device for Kryptonians in case she rebels, or a tracking device in case she escapes. Heck, those earrings might be how Eve knew she was looking at a fake Kara in the elevator with Lena.

No, just the opposite. Kara/Supergirl has been wearing those ear studs since the start of the series. (Presumably she had her ears pierced as a pre-teen on Krypton and the piercings scarred enough that they didn't heal once she got superpowers.) Lex explicitly said while he was piercing her ears that he might need her to impersonate Supergirl someday. He had to match the real Supergirl's ear piercings while he had the chance.

 

[USS Firefly]

Good episode, I really like Jon Cryer as Luthor.
I didn't expect that Supergirl tried to kill Luthor when she tried to beat him in the face

 

[YLu]

Avengers vs. Justice League revealed that Metropolis doesn't exist on Earth-616 (surprise, surprise) so that it's mostly just empty field. Also, that Earth-1 is actually a quarter larger in land mass than "our" Earth with more countries.

It was only slighter bigger, not a quarter. So slight that Perez still drew the two Earths the same size when they were side by side.

 

[Photoman15]

Never had a problem with DC fictional cities. Gives them more leeway. Marvel really went off model when JJJ and later the Kingpin became Mayor of New York

But wasn't Spidey always set in NYC? He lived in Queens.

 

[Nerys Myk]

But wasn't Spidey always set in NYC? He lived in Queens.

Yes, but the mayor was usually the real world mayor. Marvel liked to present them selves as happening in the world outside your window.

 

[Christopher]

Yes, but the mayor was usually the real world mayor. Marvel liked to present them selves as happening in the world outside your window.

Right, because we all remember all those times that New York City was levitated off the ground by a supervillain or had a plague of supernatural monsters unleashed on it or whatever.

 

[Charles Phipps]

For me it was when DC tried to do a miniseries on real politics and have superheroes but refused to have them endorse real ones so they made up a bunch that you didn't know the politics of.

It also claimed Lois Lane was a Republican.

Which....doesn't quite fit.

 

[theenglish]

For me it was when DC tried to do a miniseries on real politics and have superheroes but refused to have them endorse real ones so they made up a bunch that you didn't know the politics of.

It also claimed Lois Lane was a Republican.

Which....doesn't quite fit.

I'm not sure what year this was, but the conflagration of conservative ethical and economic values only became prominent in the 80's under Reagan. (This is part of what inspired The Handmaid's Tale.) And for decades, although the idea that Republicans were social conservatives continued to gain prominence, there were still plenty of Republicans who had liberal moral values. There would be nothing strange about Lois being a Republican in the nineties or early 21st century.

 

[The Realist]

There would be nothing strange about Lois being a Republican in the nineties or early 21st century.

Is it okay if it still makes me throw up a little in my mouth?

 

[YLu]

For me it was when DC tried to do a miniseries on real politics and have superheroes but refused to have them endorse real ones so they made up a bunch that you didn't know the politics of.

While the politicians were made up, IIRC it was pretty clear from the context which ones were meant to be Democrats and which ones Republicans.

Interestingly, I remember in interviews how the writers said they were going to reveal Batman and Superman's political affiliations, but I don't think that ultimately happened. I wonder if that was a case of editorial interference.