2x10 'The Red Angel' Preview

[eschaton]

So I am going to assume that they find out what Project Daedalus is: a time transporter. They are still fugitives and so will have to race against time to get someone in the chair to 'beam' into the future and try to gather info or help set up a resistance from that end. If we go by the preview, it looks like Michael is the only one sent ahead. It also lends credence to the idea that the presumably rogue AI in the future is focused on her specifically. So, in my opinion, this is shaping up to be a closed temporal causality loop. Michael has knowledge of what's already happened in the past (where the signals are going to be, who needs saving such as the New Eden people and herself etc.) and presumably she will get the suit in the future, the means by which those events can be made to happen.

However, I am going to hold out for some nice twists. I really hope "Calypso" and Zora factor into this. If Airiam's memories were uploaded to Discovery, perhaps they help to make the ship's computer evolve eventually. Perhaps Michael will find the ship and learn the story of how it's waiting due to orders and is able to communicate that back to the present crew. So they will know they have to take the ship to the correct spot and abandon it.

I just love the idea of the Discovery from the future being the lynch pin to undo whatever damage the CONTROL AI has done and somehow preventing the Federation (as we know it) from being annihilated.

It would also give some extra poignancy and meaning to Airiam's sacrifice.

I'm sorry, but I would - by far - prefer if the Red Angel was Michael, or someone who knew her personally like Amanda. Airiam/Zora is...well...textbook fanwank. An attempt to link together disparate elements of canon just because "it makes sense" - even if it doesn't actually fit the narrative arc at all.

 

[TrickyDickie]

Maybe they will have a special guest star as the Red Angel....Lee Meriwether.

 

[KennyB]

I'm sorry, but I would - by far - prefer if the Red Angel was Michael, or someone who knew her personally like Amanda. Airiam/Zora is...well...textbook fanwank. An attempt to link together disparate elements of canon just because "it makes sense" - even if it doesn't actually fit the narrative arc at all.

#Sybok

 

[StarTrek1701]

Perhaps the RA is an Yaddresh member?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Shouldn't Spock be in uniform by now? I know they're all having their Star Trek: Renegades phase but it's not like Michael's showing up to the bridge in her leather jacket.

 

[Timo]

Well, an officer who seriously doubts his own sanity, is officially declared a fugitive, and tends to take regulations seriously, might not personally agree to being treated that normally... He's also on his impish mood right now, hating rooks with a passion and whatnot. Trying to force him to change might not be all that easy...

Also, the heroes probably can be rid of their general fugitive status with a well-placed phone call now, establishing that Control was merely malfunctioning. Those accusations came out of the blue, and hopefully will go out just as quickly. But the process that pointed a finger at Spock has been going on for quite a bit longer, and might take longer to untangle, too.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[FreddyE]

Mark my words...I´m gonna offically throw up if it turns out that Michael is the Red Angel because of...thimey..whimey.....stuff.....reasons....

 

[thribs]

Shouldn't Spock be in uniform by now? I know they're all having their Star Trek: Renegades phase but it's not like Michael's showing up to the bridge in her leather jacket.

He’s still on leave technically

 

[TrickyDickie]

"I seem to have....misplaced my uniform."

 

[F. King Daniel]

"I seem to have....misplaced my uniform."

"Has anyone seen my uniform?"

*Spock strikes Carol Marcus pose in underwear*

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I feel like the monologue might be part of a eulogy at Airiam's funeral.

Burnham: "Of all the cyborg souls I've encountered on my travels, hers was the most....human."

 

[XCV330]

- More than 130 people there at the shuttlebay, it seems, at a glance. Better that way; we have no reason to get hung up with that ages-old datapoint.

It was blurry but I counted about 170 heads. Some of those could have been added since season one, or more transfers from Enterprise. It's not a huge discrepeny anyway, but I did notice they did include some extras familiar from previous episodes like the officer in the wheelchair from MTMTSMGM

 

[Tim Thomason]

- More than 130 people there at the shuttlebay, it seems, at a glance. Better that way; we have no reason to get hung up with that ages-old datapoint.

I assumed the crew complement could be less than the 136 from Choose Your Pain (perhaps much less), given they were due to pick up the Captain (and crew?) on Vulcan, and we can assume they got rid of some of the Season 1 science officers when the mission parameters focused entirely on the spore drive. We do know they got rid of the Black Badgers.

According to background material, the complement should be about 180.

- Four people can carry Airiam's corpse plus the machinery needed to propel the coffin? I don't think we saw the torpedo casings manhandled in any previous bit of Trek...

Anti-grav, my good sir. Being a pallbearer in the future is much easier.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

- Four people can carry Airiam's corpse plus the machinery needed to propel the coffin? I don't think we saw the torpedo casings manhandled in any previous bit of Trek...

Maybe the machinery makes the people unnecessary, but perhaps accompanying the casket is still a sometimes-used tradition?

 

[seigezunt]

I think the easiest answer is that Burnham is the Red Angel, and it's not like they don't have a track record for this. I also like the Zora theory, but will they pin a big reveal on a Short Trek that not everybody has seen? The Saru short trek was icing, not cake, for the story. I'm not sure how beholden they feel to these stories, which were made to tide over the viewers.

I also get the feeling that we're going to see some sort of cliffhanger that leaves Mike projected into the future, either at the end of this episode or the season ender.

 

[seigezunt]

Or, what if we have an ending similar to the season one cliffhanger, but this time the Discovery jumps ten years and lands ... nose-to-nose with the Enterprise ... under ... Captain ... James ... T. ... Kirk.

*screaming and bowel release ensues*

 

[drt]

I think the easiest answer is that Burnham is the Red Angel, and it's not like they don't have a track record for this. I also like the Zora theory, but will they pin a big reveal on a Short Trek that not everybody has seen? The Saru short trek was icing, not cake, for the story. I'm not sure how beholden they feel to these stories, which were made to tide over the viewers.

We don't know how Discovery was abandoned and the reasoning for doing so, showing why the crew abandoned her and the eventual recovery provides everything needed - Calypso is then just something that happened to Discovery in between and not necessary to the overall plot.

 

[jespah]

RA = Harry Mudd in bounty hunter drag.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

We don't know how Discovery was abandoned and the reasoning for doing so, showing why the crew abandoned her and the eventual recovery provides everything needed - Calypso is then just something that happened to Discovery in between and not necessary to the overall plot.

While that's true, I'm not even sure the abandoning of Discovery was something that necessarily happened to this crew, nor did it necessarily happen during the timeframe that the TV show will cover.

What I'm saying is that Discovery could have been abandoned maybe 10 years after the end of the adventures we will see on the TV show, in which case Calypso is an even more stand-alone episode that has nothing to do with the TV show except that it happens to involve the same ship.

I'm not saying that is necessarily the case, but we really don't know.

 

[rhllot]

yay tellarite!