You see the future in dreams as well? What are next week’s lotto numbers then?
Supergirl - Season Four
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Probably depends on how well the actress and character work out, and I think she's working well so far. I was worried that Ralph Dibny on The Flash might be a one-season character, but they kept him around.
I can get over a lot, but those MOON SCENES.......ugh.
The one decent Superman III sequence for me was Superman's struggle with himself (IE the mental 'Dark' Superman). IF they wanted to juist do a Richard Prior film; maybe they should have just had him become "Black Vulcan" (ala the "Superfriends" cartoon version) and done a 'team up' flick.
Using Braniac as the computer and Pryor as Black Lightning (with easy, cheesy 80s lightning effects a la TNG) would have totally changed / saved that movie.
I think The Dreamer will defiantly be brought back for a next season. I think James is the one who will be leaving. he doesn't really have much to do anymore. Maybe Lex Luthor if he works as a character starts running Katco or he forces Lenia out of her position at LuthorCorp by him and is demoted to running the place. Or their mom. Also while I am talking Luthor's is Lionel Luthor still alive in this universe? Part of me would love to see Lionel Luthor from "Smallville" somehow come aboard. Maybe throught Elswor;ds tinkering or something.
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The Earth-38 Lionel Luthor is dead and was played by Ian Butcher.
I'd be happy with just John Glover, he could a Luthor cousin, Larry.
If one can ignore the Pryor parts, Superman III has "good bones" so to speak, starting with the dark Superman struggle, which was carried off flawlessly by Reeve. Then, there's the Smallville scenes with Lana, who was a genuinely interesting character to revisit, since she had been seen as sympathetic / sort of sweet on Clark in the Smallville scenes from the first film. She was a good contrast to Lois, and would have been a good addition to the series if it had continued in the right hands.
I just realized this morning that I'm actually caught up now, I was thought I still had two or three episodes left after Menagerie.
I'm assuming from the end of the episode that the title villain is going to be recurring?
The whole thing with Alex having her memory of Kara being Supergirl was OK here, but I really hope they undo it before too long. The sister relationship between Alex and Kara was great, and I really hope we get back soon, the show just won't be the same without it.
I definitely want Nia/Dreamer to stick around she is a great character, and I'm loving her relationship with Brainy.
I'm assuming from the end of the episode that the title villain is going to be recurring?
The whole thing with Alex having her memory of Kara being Supergirl was OK here, but I really hope they undo it before too long. The sister relationship between Alex and Kara was great, and I really hope we get back soon, the show just won't be the same without it.
I definitely want Nia/Dreamer to stick around she is a great character, and I'm loving her relationship with Brainy.
In action comics by Bendis, Jimmy claimed to have slept with Talia Al Ghul recently.
Cool, cool.
Cool, cool.
Supergirl
Season 4 / episode 13 - "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?"
SG/Kara: She was sort of on the back burner of plots in this episode (despite engaging the Elite), until her only "moment" coming at the second Alex made her "only human" statement.
Regarding Operation Claymore's existence, it is--at the end of it all--a human concern, and not up to SG to determine how humans defend themselves in legitimate defensive situations. The argument against it could be countered with something along the lines of Fury's explanation in the first Avengers movie--about being outclassed/powered by everything outside of Earth. Supergirl somehow fails to understand that humankind has a right to defend themselves and not rely on any one person who may not have the interests of humanity at heart, or a skewed political view standing in opposition of a nation/world.
Of course, the idea of the president not laying out that a time might come where there would be a legitimate defensive situation demanding the need for the satellite is the showrunners being the showrunners.
However, SG stopping Claymore's activation only justifies the president & Haley's plans with Lena. The lines in the sand are deeper than ever before.
Lockwood / Children of Liberty: With Lockwood feeling manipulated by the president--turned into a poster boy--this sets up the point where he will seek superpowers himself, or will be--AHA, I knew it! Approached by the president...
Alex: I guess it wont be too long before Alex finds herself squeezed in between the plans of the president, Lena and Haley. I suspect if the plans go too far, she will turn to Supergirl for help, and at that point, her memory will be restored--or SG will insist that J'onn keep her memory erased.
Haley not knowing about Claymore does not erase her belief in the need for stronger deterrents.
Alex trusting Lena...that has to backfire on her in some way, or place SG at risk.
Menagerie / Manchester Black & Company: J'onn thinking Black is anything more than a mass murderer...believing in redemption for such a man makes him eternally thick-skulled. Black's lust for revenge/blood is not the behavior of someone simply making a personal misstep.
According to the news, some think murderers are a "force for good?" Mmkay, If they think they hold soe oral high ground, then they should understand it when they are on the receiving end of that. Motive be damned.
Thanks to J'onn's believing in something that was never there, Black escaped. Good job.
James / Lena: Just waiting for James to begin his investigation into Lena's government contract.
Nia / Brainy: The training sequence was fun. I wanted more time dedicated to that. Oh, and Nia still needs a facemask upgrade.
NOTES: "Don't Hassle Me, I'm Local" t-shirt... Heh-heh
GRADE: A. Plots building well enough, and a mountain of tension going in all directions. I can see that leading to an explosive season finale.
Season 4 / episode 13 - "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?"
SG/Kara: She was sort of on the back burner of plots in this episode (despite engaging the Elite), until her only "moment" coming at the second Alex made her "only human" statement.
Regarding Operation Claymore's existence, it is--at the end of it all--a human concern, and not up to SG to determine how humans defend themselves in legitimate defensive situations. The argument against it could be countered with something along the lines of Fury's explanation in the first Avengers movie--about being outclassed/powered by everything outside of Earth. Supergirl somehow fails to understand that humankind has a right to defend themselves and not rely on any one person who may not have the interests of humanity at heart, or a skewed political view standing in opposition of a nation/world.
Of course, the idea of the president not laying out that a time might come where there would be a legitimate defensive situation demanding the need for the satellite is the showrunners being the showrunners.
However, SG stopping Claymore's activation only justifies the president & Haley's plans with Lena. The lines in the sand are deeper than ever before.
Lockwood / Children of Liberty: With Lockwood feeling manipulated by the president--turned into a poster boy--this sets up the point where he will seek superpowers himself, or will be--AHA, I knew it! Approached by the president...
Alex: I guess it wont be too long before Alex finds herself squeezed in between the plans of the president, Lena and Haley. I suspect if the plans go too far, she will turn to Supergirl for help, and at that point, her memory will be restored--or SG will insist that J'onn keep her memory erased.
Haley not knowing about Claymore does not erase her belief in the need for stronger deterrents.
Alex trusting Lena...that has to backfire on her in some way, or place SG at risk.
Menagerie / Manchester Black & Company: J'onn thinking Black is anything more than a mass murderer...believing in redemption for such a man makes him eternally thick-skulled. Black's lust for revenge/blood is not the behavior of someone simply making a personal misstep.
According to the news, some think murderers are a "force for good?" Mmkay, If they think they hold soe oral high ground, then they should understand it when they are on the receiving end of that. Motive be damned.
Thanks to J'onn's believing in something that was never there, Black escaped. Good job.
James / Lena: Just waiting for James to begin his investigation into Lena's government contract.
Nia / Brainy: The training sequence was fun. I wanted more time dedicated to that. Oh, and Nia still needs a facemask upgrade.
NOTES: "Don't Hassle Me, I'm Local" t-shirt... Heh-heh
GRADE: A. Plots building well enough, and a mountain of tension going in all directions. I can see that leading to an explosive season finale.
Now that's what I'm talking about!
Easily -- easily -- the best episode since before the crossover. After an incredibly strong and consistent start to the season, we hit a run of middling, wheel-spinning episodes after the New Year, driven mostly by the implausible contrivance of Alex's memory wipe. Meanwhile, the show had Lockwood and Black, the MVPs who drove the powerful conflicts and themes of the first part of the season, cooling their heels in the hoosegow.
But they're back, and just like that, the show is roaring on all cylinders again. Everything worked tonight, in a jam-packed episode full of conflict, character, and exciting plot progression. Welcome back, Supergirl, and please keep it up.
Easily -- easily -- the best episode since before the crossover. After an incredibly strong and consistent start to the season, we hit a run of middling, wheel-spinning episodes after the New Year, driven mostly by the implausible contrivance of Alex's memory wipe. Meanwhile, the show had Lockwood and Black, the MVPs who drove the powerful conflicts and themes of the first part of the season, cooling their heels in the hoosegow.
But they're back, and just like that, the show is roaring on all cylinders again. Everything worked tonight, in a jam-packed episode full of conflict, character, and exciting plot progression. Welcome back, Supergirl, and please keep it up.
A pretty good episode per se, but I'm disappointed that it didn't really engage with the themes of the comics story it's named after. That was about Manchester Black and the Elite challenging whether Superman's refusal to kill was naive in these more violent times, and Superman ultimately giving a terrific speech reaffirming his principles and exposing the emptiness of Black's. This episode somewhat engaged with the theme, but didn't really focus on it, and if anything, the climax went slightly in the opposite direction by having Supergirl compromise by destroying the satellite and lying about it.
Cute that the anti-alien satellite was launched from Devil's Tower. I wouldn't have expected a Close Encounters reference.
And it's cool that they found another excuse to use Supergirl's isolation suit, as a spacesuit this time.
Cute that the anti-alien satellite was launched from Devil's Tower. I wouldn't have expected a Close Encounters reference.
And it's cool that they found another excuse to use Supergirl's isolation suit, as a spacesuit this time.
I've always found the comics story a bit overrated, and not as profound or important as it thinks it is, so I didn't mind that they weren't all that beholden to it. And I don't think Kara really compromised, nor did she technically lie. As she told President Assmunch (what the hell did Marsdin see in this guy as a running mate?), "there was no other choice."
