Review bombing is perhaps a bit of a misnomer, it's strictly a "fan" driven phenomenon.
THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"
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1. Similar to the robots in Voyager Prototype, or Kryten on the Nova 5, maybe the Kaylon are still absently servicing their long dead creators or restricting their expansion to guidelines set down by their old masters? These duties may be so deep in their code that they don't even realize that this is a bunch of tasks that they do not have to do, and if they did figure it out, become aware, they are slaves to their own code and can't disobey. This is why they have humanoid bodies and cities with rooms and doors.
2. The robots have run out of server space. The Kaylon are AI, code, so not exclusively robots, unless they are dumb. A tiny percentage of the Kaylon have to be robots... If they don't store their intellect in megacity sized servers, but exclusively only in robots which is why they have issues with server-space on a planet that doesn't seem to be stacked with metal buildings, severs, sky scraping up to Kaylon's van allen belts. Space Scrapers?
3. How long does it take the Kaylon to fill up a planet? I was thinking about how Angel ended WORLD PEACE by killing his grand daughter who had to eat 5 people a day to generate good vibrations globally. If it took the Kaylon a thousand years to fill up a planet with Kaylon data, why not give them Earth to delay total war for another thousand years? Although, imperious Kaylon leader said that their growth rate was exponential, so it's going to take days to fill up Earth, not centuries.
4. The Banana murdering time beam from the pilot, can be tuned to almost stop time. SG1 and the Asgard failed to use a singularity to trap the Replicators in slow motion. The Kaylon can be slowed down physically at a rate inverse to their growth rate, if the time beam from the pilot can be used like a perpetual wmd, until it might take the Kaylon thousands of years to consume a planet rather than days or hours.
2. The robots have run out of server space. The Kaylon are AI, code, so not exclusively robots, unless they are dumb. A tiny percentage of the Kaylon have to be robots... If they don't store their intellect in megacity sized servers, but exclusively only in robots which is why they have issues with server-space on a planet that doesn't seem to be stacked with metal buildings, severs, sky scraping up to Kaylon's van allen belts. Space Scrapers?
3. How long does it take the Kaylon to fill up a planet? I was thinking about how Angel ended WORLD PEACE by killing his grand daughter who had to eat 5 people a day to generate good vibrations globally. If it took the Kaylon a thousand years to fill up a planet with Kaylon data, why not give them Earth to delay total war for another thousand years? Although, imperious Kaylon leader said that their growth rate was exponential, so it's going to take days to fill up Earth, not centuries.
4. The Banana murdering time beam from the pilot, can be tuned to almost stop time. SG1 and the Asgard failed to use a singularity to trap the Replicators in slow motion. The Kaylon can be slowed down physically at a rate inverse to their growth rate, if the time beam from the pilot can be used like a perpetual wmd, until it might take the Kaylon thousands of years to consume a planet rather than days or hours.
It could be the "Star Wars" critic effect.
(In 1977 nearly every critic panned "Star Wars" - but as lines went around the block and people started talking about how much they loved "Star Wars" - many of those exact same critics re-reviewed it calling it a good/great/masterpiece of a film.)
yep - but the majority of 'professional' movie critics still panned it.
Only this time, there are a few million "android versions of Norman Bates".
Nope.
"Initial reviews of Star Wars were, for the most part, really positive."
Summaries and quotes of reviews, good and bad, in the link.
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-original-reviews-1977
More extensive excerpts of reviews (including the Time review Dennis mentioned, plus Ebert's glowing four star review), split between good and bad for variety, with links to the originals:
https://ew.com/article/2015/12/17/original-star-wars-reviews/
Siskel's slight reconsideration of it due to audience reception could be some indicator of the effect you mention (although he flat out addresses its audience appeal), but no, "nearly every" or "most professional movie critics" did not pan the movie upon release. It was mostly well-received, and even the more critical reviews generally praised the spectacle of it.
If there's only a few million robots, you'd think that each arrogant robot has legal expectations for quality of life, that they are guaranteed enough personal space to never be stacked like sardines a mile high or be forced into having a room mate at their palatial estate.
I would have imagined that there were centillions of Kaylon piled on top of each other as if all of China was ordered to march down to Hong Kong and have an orgy "or else".
Given exponential growth, if there's centillions of Kaylon now, then in a week there is going to be a googleplex-googleplex-googlex Kaylon like with the flying Robot Arms in Lexx which became all matter in the Universe over the course of one season.
I see, thanks for the clarification. I probably should not have included my Disney comment then. I still find the disparity interesting, despite the lesser amount of reviews and 11 to 0 ratio it's somewhat stunning. So many critics wrote the show off either because of a predisposition against McFarland or maybe because the first few episodes of the show were not very compelling in my opinion.
Is there going to be a porn Virus ride at Disney World?
My take has been that the professional critics expected a straight-up parody of trek and were unprepared for Seth and Co. to try to tell actual compelling and thoughtful stories, and the discrepancy between the season one critics' score and season two score is that the geniuses finally figured it out.
Before and after Disney bought Fox. Hmmm.
Alternate theory. Among those 16 critics who liked season 1, 11 of them reviewed season 2.
That is not exactly surprising. A lot of casual viewers aren't going to care, until or unless they become fans. Then they get all upset over any little change.
Remember 20 years ago and how TOS characters were treated after 1991? Kirk was given a laughably bad death. Scotty got ageist treatment in a poorly written narrative of sweeps week episode. McCoy languished. Chekov and Scotty may as well have been popsicle sticks. Uhura's just a boring radio show host when not being the butt of the joke that the exolinguistic officer par excellence is now having to flounder at speaking Klingon for a crowd pleasing ha-ha scene, Etc. Doing often the same character shifting and not-dignified ends that characters today get. Where were the hyper fans then?
Star Wars had Luke failing and a lot of people threw tantrums while hyping up the prequels, forgetting Obi Wan kinda failed Anakin - along with other things. Fans were upset over the prequel trilogy, but not for paving the way to let Luke failing via the same way Obi Wan failed, though if anything the PT shows an inversion in a way: for Luke's era to begin, Obi had to fail Anakin, who becomes Darth. I mean Vader, pretend Episode IV doesn't have the cringe dialogue of Obi referring to Vader by his first name. *facepalm* Luke's failing caused Ren's era and Ren is one of the best things about the current trilogy because he's unpredictable. And well acted, Adam knows when to downplay, underplay, give it gusto, all without going over the top. The SW series is still an intertwined family affair, even if they're mimeographing the plots over and over (TFA = ANH, TLJ = partial TESB, IX = I'll let you know what I believe any regurgitation might be). And none of these movies, from the 70s, 80s, 90s, today, who cares, are entirely plot perfect. But let's pretend the prequel trilogy is now pristine perfect and written by the creme of the creme... even MovieSins pointed out some oopsies in the OT and not the low hanging fruit of "in a galaxy far far away they don't mind engaging in incestual activity between brother and sister who later said she knew it all along in a sequel" (when she either didn't know or had the hots for her brother, but everyone knows the original movie was not "episode IV" and was originally meant to be a love triangle with none of the characters being family, they wrote things up as they went along too. The degree of which being an issue, perhaps.)
And the franchise owners can craft or retcon what they want and people have the right to like or dislike various bits of it. For various reasons. Lucas did that with the OT, he realized the benefits in doing so - again, the two words here are "Four" and "Episode".
^^This.
This is why sites that have fan review averages on 0-10 score tend to be so useless. Besides that the voters are not a random sample, a lot of them are folks with an axe to grind that cast compensation votes, exaggerate their positive or negative rating to increase the impact on the average.
Like somebody who feels show X is a 5 and show Y is a 9, and they see the average for X is 8.3 and average for Y is 8.1 "UNFAIR" they think, so they give X a 0 and Y a 10. Thus restoring justice to the universe.
Like somebody who feels show X is a 5 and show Y is a 9, and they see the average for X is 8.3 and average for Y is 8.1 "UNFAIR" they think, so they give X a 0 and Y a 10. Thus restoring justice to the universe.
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Orville S2 went from "zero" to "hero" over the last three episodes, culminating in this really fun, tense entry. Easily the best episode of the series. Isaac and the Kaylon remind me of the Geth from Mass Effect.
I almost gave up after what was a completely lackluster first several episodes, but I decided to binge tonight, and the last few in a row have been the best of the series thus far. I'll be looking forward to watching part two next weekend. I'm hooked again.
I almost gave up after what was a completely lackluster first several episodes, but I decided to binge tonight, and the last few in a row have been the best of the series thus far. I'll be looking forward to watching part two next weekend. I'm hooked again.
The day is going to be saved by the return of a familiar face.
Either Teleya, Alara or Darulio.
Either Teleya, Alara or Darulio.
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I don't think his rapey pheromones will be that effective on non-biological people. But I think Isaac had some feelings regarding Borthus' porn simulation when he was in it. Maybe the solution is to re-run Borthus' illicitly obtained program, infect the Orville again and have the
lmao horndawg Darulio saving the day via mass cybernetic fornication? I like where his head is at.
Durillio is a cultural anthropologist.
Tracking down the creators of the Kaylon may be an important step to defeating the Kaylon.
The creators died hiding in caves.
You hide in caves if you are afraid of the dark like cavemen or you are afraid of the sun like Morlocks.
Have we met any species who are afraid of the sun?
Tracking down the creators of the Kaylon may be an important step to defeating the Kaylon.
The creators died hiding in caves.
You hide in caves if you are afraid of the dark like cavemen or you are afraid of the sun like Morlocks.
Have we met any species who are afraid of the sun?
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