What parts of the TOS enterprise filming model would these signage decals have been placed?

[Acenos]

I know that the two inspection door decals can be found on the saucer and the tail pipe socket adjustment decal is below the nacelle pylons, but how about the rest of these decals? what parts of the ship would they have been placed? I'm struggling to figure this out.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I'm at a disadvantage now because I'm at work, and image hosting is blocked here. So I'm not 100% sure what you're asking. But I put some pics in this thread a while back:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/tos-enterprise-model-signage-locations.297626/

 

[Acenos]

I'm at a disadvantage now because I'm at work, and image hosting is blocked here. So I'm not 100% sure what you're asking. But I put some pics in this thread a while back:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/tos-enterprise-model-signage-locations.297626/

i only see just those three signs on the model, the rest are either obscured from view or unused. I'm just asking what other places could those other decals have been placed? could have.

 

[Stibbons]

Well here-

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/model-starship-enterprise-television-show-star-trek

-is a site from the Smithsonian where they are refurbishing the original model and I can only see one or two possible sites where they could be, but nothing like all of the ones on that sheet. I'd think that these were Bridge indicator light labels or something on first glance. Perhaps from the interior of the Shuttle Hanger?

 

[Acenos]

Well here-

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/model-starship-enterprise-television-show-star-trek

-is a site from the Smithsonian where they are refurbishing the original model and I can only see one or two possible sites where they could be, but nothing like all of the ones on that sheet. I'd think that these were Bridge indicator light labels or something on first glance. Perhaps from the interior of the Shuttle Hanger?

Though i wonder if the "Explosive bolt access" was meant to be located on the neck, just under the saucer. To hint at the saucer separation capability

 

[Forbin]

Here's a couple.
If someone has a scan of the Polar Lights 1/350 model instrux, they'll all probably be shown there.

 

[Stibbons]

Here's the decal sheet for the 1/350 PL Enterprise, I can only see a couple of those signage decals there, numbers 19 and 26.

I tell a lie, they're included on 11 and 12 too.

 

[Acenos]

Here's the decal sheet for the 1/350 PL Enterprise, I can only see a couple of those signage decals there, numbers 19 and 26.

I tell a lie, they're included on 11 and 12 too.

i already mentioned those specific signage decals int he post

 

[Acenos]

Here's a couple.
If someone has a scan of the Polar Lights 1/350 model instrux, they'll all probably be shown there.

thing is, the decals above are for the filming model, not model kits. i did remember seeing more signage decals in earlier photographs of the model before bothe the 2016 and 1991 restorations. the site that had them however is gone

 

[Mysterion]

"Tail Pipe Socket Adjustment Access"? Really?

The Enterprise has a tail pipe? And this tail pipe has a socket that needs to be adjusted from time to time? This doesn't seem to me like something you'd find in an advanced FTL-capable starship.

 

[Marsden]

"Tail Pipe Socket Adjustment Access"? Really?

The Enterprise has a tail pipe? And this tail pipe has a socket that needs to be adjusted from time to time? This doesn't seem to me like something you'd find in an advanced FTL-capable starship.

Yes, that's where the Klingons always put the potato when they want to disable a Starship.

 

[1001001]

"Tail Pipe Socket Adjustment Access"? Really?

The Enterprise has a tail pipe? And this tail pipe has a socket that needs to be adjusted from time to time? This doesn't seem to me like something you'd find in an advanced FTL-capable starship.

Where else is the exhaust supposed to go?

 

[Henoch]

What does a Starship need with stick-on decals? Wouldn't all those low orbit and sun skimming hull heatings burn them off?

 

[TrickyDickie]

TAILPIPUS MAXIMUS

 

[ZapBrannigan]

i only see just those three signs on the model, the rest are either obscured from view or unused. I'm just asking what other places could those other decals have been placed? could have.

I think unused is a key point. There might be no answer to where they were supposed to go, because those early decals were created without a plan.

 

[Acenos]

I think unused is a key point. There might be no answer to where they were supposed to go, because those early decals were created without a plan.

though i'd refer seculating where they'd go. like the explosive bolt access decal for example. I'd picture it being near the area where the neck and the saucer connect. A reference to the ship's saucer separation capability.

 

[Stibbons]

The tail pipe is obviously the exhaust from the Diesel Decks.

It's precisely where the original poster pointed out, under the nacelle pylons

Found this image on this site- http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/models/ but not had time to go through it all to see if there are any others yet. Might lead to a better answer anyway. Who is "William McCullar" and where is this analysis? Looks like he did have a website but it's not available any more.

I get the vague idea that some of these signs might have come from a B-29 Superfortress model.

 

[Maurice]

Found this image on this site- http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/models/ but not had time to go through it all to see if there are any others yet. Might lead to a better answer anyway. Who is "William McCullar" and where is this analysis? Looks like he did have a website but it's not available any more.

I get the vague idea that some of these signs might have come from a B-29 Superfortress model.

William S. McCullars' IDIC pages are preserved on the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine here (link). A specific page about the signs is here (link).

 

[Acenos]

William S. McCullars' IDIC pages are preserved on the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine here (link). A specific page about the signs is here (link).

sadly the page of the decal sheets is missing the images

 

[Stibbons]

Aha- Found this-

Three of the smaller text decals were used on the Galileo filming miniature:

1. INSPECTION DOOR VENT SYSTEM CONNECTIONS (located near the upper right of the main hatch)
2. HATCH ACCESS (located at lower left of main hatch)
3. NITROGEN PURGE REDUCER VALVE ACCESS (located on the right rear access panel)

I recall reading somewhere that some other decals from the big decal sheets meant for the 33" and 11' models may even have been used as signage on the hangar bay maquette, but I'm not 100% sure of that (or if so, which ones).

ON EDIT: The source for some of the flight deck model signage I was thinking of is from Richard Datin's old website (though I am aware of no photos that could serve to demonstrate this to be true):

https://web.archive.org/web/20110830...es/4/index.htm

-at the Hobby Talk forums (https://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/99-s...iginal-nacelle-domes-11-ft-enterprise-67.html), so not all the decals were on the outside or possibly even on the Enterprise.

The thick plottens...