THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"
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Get ready for the big, shiny red reset button at the end of the second part.....
Oooh. I forgot that. Yeah, another good piece of evidence, I think, that Issac's personality was changed when he was sent to the Orville for his fact finding mission.
I'm going to go with the "an impassioned plea from a loved one (Claire's youngest) causes Isaac to flip back to "nice" trope.
Well, if the show intends to keep Isaac as a regular crew member on the Orville, then I think they basically have to press some type of reset button. Which is why I think we will get a personality reset in Isaac. I just don't see how else the crew would ever allow Isaac to stay on the Orville with everything that has happened. They are not going to allow a robot from a race of genocidal robots who also deeply hurt Claire and her kids to serve as their science officer. The only way it could work is if Isaac's personality was fundamentally altered and they reset it back to the way he was before the reboot. Then the crew will be ok with Isaac staying because they will know that "nice Isaac" is back. Although, I would think that there should be still a lot of fallout. The crew should not just pretend like nothing happened.
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I think they will make something happen to him, and he'll be human.
But still look like a robot.
You didn't?Yea
I didn't understand that.
Bortus wanted a corner piece. Pretty much everybody likes corner pieces. But he was pretty hard core about trying to get one, probably like many people would like to be, until he got foiled by being handed a non-corner piece. Then social custom demanded he stick with that. It was truly hilarious.
Yeah, I agree that some sort of personality reset will play a role in Isaac's fate.
I expected that they Kaylons might end up being hostile, but daaamn, that went to a whole other level than what I expected.
The scene when they fight the skeletons was super creepy.
I think we can see why most of the episodes so far have been so small, they were saving all of their money for this episode.
Penny Johnson Jerald gave another great performance this week.
That was one hell of a cliffhanger, I can't wait for next week.
Actually they kind of reminded more of the Geth from Mass Effect. They were created as servants by one alien race, but eventually turned on them and almost wiped them out, they then went on to become one of the series main enemy races.
Wow, that was awkward, but then again that seems pretty normal when dealing with Dan.
I noticed some of them also appeared to have one orange and one red eye. I was wondering if there was any significance to the eye color. It did seem like the ones who did the fighting were all the red eyes, while orange eyes seemed to be mostly working at the wall.
That was hilarious, and Peter Macon's performance there was perfect.
I expected that they Kaylons might end up being hostile, but daaamn, that went to a whole other level than what I expected.
The scene when they fight the skeletons was super creepy.
I think we can see why most of the episodes so far have been so small, they were saving all of their money for this episode.
Penny Johnson Jerald gave another great performance this week.
That was one hell of a cliffhanger, I can't wait for next week.
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For me, the Metropolis reference when they landed spoiled part of the surprise early on: there was going to be something shocking underground. Still enjoyed the episode though.
Exactly. The signs were there all the time!
I also had some thoughts. What if there are still some surviving "biological" Kaylons on some far flung colony world. The thought I had when I first saw that pile of bones...it wasn't that long ago. That would mean the "real" Kaylons were already incredibly advanced when they were wiped out by the robots.
When I say "not that long ago", I mean within a few centuries. The Kaylon civilization were already more advanced than the Union, centuries earlier...
When I say "not that long ago", I mean within a few centuries. The Kaylon civilization were already more advanced than the Union, centuries earlier...
Probably at the Space Zoo from Season 1 Ep 2.
Possible bargaining chips in the form of people?
Yeah... a little weird (I was wondering how the Orville could do it...it wasn't made for that)...but Kaylon has the tech to make that a reasonable possibility (I.e. those magnetic locks)….for them, it works into their plans.
Maybe their tech at that time was only shooting people (like they did on Orville)? ANd maybe it was some kind of "memorial"... the one exception to the current rule (where Isaac threw away his physical memorial). The caves looked pretty ancient...stark contrast to the tech we had first seen.
I would call them on "blue alert"...the opposite of red alert. They were on a planet that was theoretically safe. No reason to have security measures up. They were as safe (theoretically) as a Union Starbase.
Since they killed off all life forms, why would they have any security for that area??? In the hundreds or thousands of years since the massacre, did they ever have ONE unauthorized visitor? Isn't Orville the first outsider to the planet?
It would be very embarrassing, so they wanted to clean up their own mess. Mercer was still suspicious at that point.
True...there MIGHT be a reset.. we will see how that works out
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I think it would be pretty disgusting to take a person that died in another place off and dissect and study them.
Like if Bortus died or Kelly died, would they take their bodies to the medical school on Flotop Four and dissect them?
Thank you.
For the explaination.
I'm not to compliant/competent with/in social custom.
Really hope an episode of this quality helps the ratings. I need this show to be renewed lest my mental health deteriorate beyond all recourse.
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