No Gary Mitchell was a LCDR also somebody had a half strip which some has speculated is CPO insignia.
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when did TOS take place, 23rd century or 22nd century
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My goodness, I'd never seen that pilot half-braid before. Does anyone have more info on that?
That's what I get for having watched TOS mostly on actual tubes!
Well memory alpha and beta claims that it A cpo insignia and I believe that the person was on the bridge. Although it could mean something else because around this time GR though that everyone serving aboard a starship is an officer.
That’s why the twok uniforms are one of my favorites because they give insignia to all people and don’t leave out the enlisted. And red is my favorite color
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In the CAGE, they had three ranks (1 solid stripe, 1 broken (lacy) stripe, no stripe). Skipper. Gilligan. "And the Rest".
No. I get exactly what you mean. I'm just saying that lack of evidence IS evidence in an of itself. For example if I said "Unicorns don't exist." And then you say, "Well just becasue you've never seen one, doesn't mean they don't exist." Yes, you're technically correct there could be unicorns hidden in some far off jungle and no one has ever seen them. But because of the fact that there has never been one observed in all the realms that humans have explored it is highly indicative that they don't exist. Is it absolute proof? Of course not.
My conclusion that the NCC-1701 warp drive did not use subspace does fit with the available onscreen evidence. And further matches up with the changes in nacelle design, and the changes in how the reactors function. It doesn't contradict anything seen on screen, instead it only contradicts fan assumptions.
I'm still waiting for your evidence that they DID use subspace for FTL propulsion.
You make a great point about bathrooms. We don't have any evidence that they had bathrooms. It is reasonable to assume that some sort of waste management system exists, but we don't have any indications as to what those systems might be. Maybe they didn't have bathrooms as we know them, maybe they just paste suction cups to their butts.
Yes, but there is no evidence it was ever retconned either. It's just fan assumption.
So called "early installment weirdness" is still canon. I don't dismiss it just becasue it's different than TNG era trek.
I'm using the term "Alcubierre" to refer to any system that generates a "bubble" of spacetime that enables ftl travel. This being differentiated from the TNG era propulsion which uses a "bubble" of subspace to move FTL.
I don't believe I have pushed that time barrier means time dilation in this thread. I'm just wondering what the difference between pre and post "Time Barrier" warp drives are. That the question that I'm really trying to find an answer to. In regards to fictional FTL propulsion we have a system that "bends" spacetime and we have a system that "bends" subspace. What is a third system that overcomes or is unable to overcome a "time barrier"?
Series Bibles aren't canon. If I look up references to impulse engines from just Star Trek, not the other series, I find a couple of interesting things. First, impulse engines maintain velocity NOT acceleration. References to impulse are always about speed. This indicates that they don't operate like rockets, becasue, as was pointed out earlier, when rockets are on they provide acceleration. However, when impulse engines are on they provide velocity, depending on the setting. Second, impulse engines can operate in reverse. There are a couple references where impulse engine are used to go backwards. This is also unlike rocket engines which produce thrust in one direction. So it appears that the actual series is contradicting the series bible.
That's generally true.
Or, as in so many cases (see, e.g., basic orbital mechanics, especially in TOS, but also in other series) what it demonstrates is that actual physics were beyond the grasp of the people who've written Star Trek. It needn't be anything more complicated than scientific illiteracy that didn't actually rise to the level of negatively impacting (what they judged to be) the entertaining presentation of good stories.
Captain Ramhart and the Antares must have been further out in space where there are no phones! 
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The one I find interesting is in "Court Martial" where they need impulse engines to maintain orbit. Because when they shut them off they say they can maintain orbit by momentum, but that the orbit will eventually decay. How low are they that the orbit will decay in a matter of minutes/hours? I guess that speaks to their handling of orbits in general which is kind of weird.
Yeah, but if we just run with that, then we can't waste hours of our lives in fruitless arguments online.
Maybe Captain Ramhart and his crew picked up their uniforms at the local UESPA surplus store.Captain Ramhart and the Antares must have been further out in space where there are no phones!
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You know I never liked the UESPA name. It looks too much like a civilian agency name(like NASA) And no civilian agency should have ships as well armed as the enterprise. Although if the agency just operated probes then it would be fine.
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Uncool, man. We'd miss out on Kirk hot-wiring the Jefferies tube, with a ripped shirt, no less.
Or subspace teletype: http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x00hd/thecagehd0272.jpg Note broken rank strip on sleeves.Captain Ramhart and the Antares must have been further out in space where there are no phones!
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In the Menagerie when the Enterprise was hijacked, all a Commodore and Captain rank can muster is one lousy shuttlecraft to pursue the stolen Starship! Starbase 11 is not the place to go for help.
What also seems strange to me is then why not use the engines to go to a wider orbit and then shut them down, then the orbit would last longer maybe a month or more.
The only thing I can think of is the nature of the engines interacts with a gravity well it a way we don't understand that would nullify our current understanding of orbital mechanics. Or possible the artificial gravity, however that works, causes the ship to lose orbit faster than we would think.
Discussions can be fun, arguments not so much unless conducted logically. Then there's:
Well he wasn't a real Commodore, he was just a mental projection. It would be hilarious if only Kirk could see the projection while on the starbase. Maybe that's why he could only get a shuttle. There goes Kirk, talking to his imaginary friend again.
That's a neat idea, actually.
In all seriousness, I find it interesting how trying to rationalize mistakes can sometimes produce very interesting results, occasionally ingenious. Of course, sometimes we don't know when to stop....
Nah. Court Martial does it again. The Enterprise is falling out of orbit with the Starbase Commodore and four Starship Captains, and not one of the damn other Starships can come and help!!!! Starbase 11 sucks when it comes to giving help! I wouldn't pull into this Starbase for an oil change.
