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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"

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Actually, the "Storm Front" two-parter that began the season and wrapped up the Temporal Cold War was pretty bad.

It was not as good as the rest of the season but I thought it was ok considering the mess they had to cleanup from the cliffhanger forced on them by Berman & Braga. And of course B&B deserve all the blame for the finale.
 
Totally...the guy had like 2 sentences that he knew and just repeated them over and over:

"Prepare to be boarded or destroyed!"

"Surrender must be unconditional and IMMEDIATE!!"

Hardcore that one.

And no blinking. At least I don't think he blinked.
 
Hey! I was a big fan of The Mod Squad. Stop making fun of Capt. Greer! :nyah:
As Linc Hayes would say, "Solid!"

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But did Linc ever offer the other characters powders...and liquids for the sick?
 
Burnham mentioned this in the very first episode.

You know Burnham isn't the first star trek character to excel in multiple fields or be good at everything right? Let's use Picard for example.

- Was the youngest ever to win the Starfleet decathlon
- Was touted by Richard Galen, to be the greatest archaeologist of his generation, had he not gone into starfleet.
- became a captain in his thirties
- has a tactical maneuver named after him, which is studied at the academy
- considered one of starfleet's best diplomats
- attractive younger women were always into him
- Of all the billions of humans, he was the one to garner the attention of a omnipotent being to challenge.

But yeah burnham = mary sue or whatever :rolleyes:

Are you comparing Michael with Jean Luc? :O tsk tsk tsk! ;)

The whole thing is not that realistic for Picard (or any non-enhanced human) either, however I guess most of his accomplishments didn't happen in his early 30s.
I do think they overdo it with Burnham, lets not forget how easily she could kick the bums of Klingons last season.
 
Are you comparing Michael with Jean Luc? :O tsk tsk tsk! ;)

The whole thing is not that realistic for Picard (or any non-enhanced human) either, however I guess most of his accomplishments didn't happen in his early 30s.
I do think they overdo it with Burnham, lets not forget how easily she could kick the bums of Klingons last season.

Burnham has very few accomplishments in her 30's, actually.

She didn't kick Kol's ass. Kol toyed with her, which was actually made clear in the dialogue, and she was "playing for a tie" to delay for the jumps Discovery needed to make.
 
I was reading Jammer's review of this episode and he brings up a good point:
Jammer said:
Whatever happened to the bomb L'Rell used to seize control in the first place? Maybe it's best not to dwell on the absurd machinations that got us here
https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-dsc/s2/point-of-light.php

Yeah, how come L'Rell didn't bring up the bomb when the Kolsha dude was blackmailing her?
 
Are you comparing Michael with Jean Luc? :O tsk tsk tsk! ;)

The whole thing is not that realistic for Picard (or any non-enhanced human) either, however I guess most of his accomplishments didn't happen in his early 30s.
I do think they overdo it with Burnham, lets not forget how easily she could kick the bums of Klingons last season.

And Picard fought 3 nausicaans when he was Burnham's age or slightly younger. Yes he got stabbed in the heart, but it took him fighting 3 nausicaans for that to happen. You pretty much proved the point i was trying to make. You're willing to make allowances to accept the mary sue-ness of one character but won't do the same for another.

Btw, I want to make it clear I'm not taking issue with you personally, but general notion of fans accepting something in one character while criticising it another.
 
I was reading Jammer's review of this episode and he brings up a good point:

https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-dsc/s2/point-of-light.php

Yeah, how come L'Rell didn't bring up the bomb when the Kolsha dude was blackmailing her?

What would that have accomplished though? If L'rell threatened to blow up the planet solely because of Kol'sha he would 100% have used that to his advantage, and most likely instigated a rebellion with the support of the other council members.
 
I was reading Jammer's review of this episode and he brings up a good point:

https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-dsc/s2/point-of-light.php

Yeah, how come L'Rell didn't bring up the bomb when the Kolsha dude was blackmailing her?

Also from that review:

Jammer said:
If I'm supposed to be impressed and spine-chilled by L'Rell telling all her Klingon subjects to bow down and call her MOTHER, well, um, not so much.

You and me both, Jammer. You and me both.

Two stars is exactly what I figured he'd rate it.
 
Are you comparing Michael with Jean Luc? :O tsk tsk tsk! ;)

The whole thing is not that realistic for Picard (or any non-enhanced human) either, however I guess most of his accomplishments didn't happen in his early 30s.
I do think they overdo it with Burnham, lets not forget how easily she could kick the bums of Klingons last season.

People grew accustomed to the fact that during the TNG to ENT years, it was made clear that martial arts wasn't part of Star Fleet Academy training for humans, so people think that human Star Fleet officers shouldn't be able to fight their way out of a wet paper bag. While it certainly didn't look like Burnham was using, say, akido, which is a human martial art used to use an opponents force against them, she did live on Vulcan, a high gravity planet for what, 20 years and was actually trained in Vulcan martial arts? Can you say the same thing about Picard? Or is this something that you forgot?
 
Also from that review:



You and me both, Jammer. You and me both.

Two stars is exactly what I figured he'd rate it.

Clearly neither of you were raised in a Klingon household. Klingons come across as the kind of speices who takes the concept of spare the rod spoil the child to heart.
 
^ There's a difference between the things you're talking about and the Augment situation, because the latter is massively significant in terms of the Trek franchise as a whole.
To be honest, I can't imagine a thing less significant to the franchise than the whole Augment stuff. I love Enterprise, but this was one of its low points.

I was reading Jammer's review of this episode and he brings up a good point:

https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-dsc/s2/point-of-light.php

Yeah, how come L'Rell didn't bring up the bomb when the Kolsha dude was blackmailing her?
The whole bomb thing was so stupid, I'm kinda glad they didn't include a callback to that particular story point.
 
To be honest, I can't imagine a thing less significant to the franchise than the whole Augment stuff.

I already explained how and why the Augment Virus situation is narratively significant to the franchise as a whole; it defines Federation and Klingon relations and interactions for at least 5 years before finally being cured.

The DSC team has continually and repeatedly said that they will make any perceived inconsistencies between DSC and "later" Trek series make sense narratively, and, as of right now, the Augment Virus situation falls into that category.
 
I already explained how and why the Augment Virus situation is narratively significant to the franchise as a whole; it defines Federation and Klingon relations and interactions for at least 5 years before finally being cured.
Without the Augment story arc, that interaction would have been the same. I call BS on the hypothetical significance of that terrible story
 
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