Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"
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I still want to know what show you're watching, because SMG is a fine actor.
She really is. By all means, don't like the character, or the plot choices involving her, but SMG is doing a good job. The casting and acting on this show are very good, even when it wobbles in other areas.
I'm going to quote from another post of mine here, because it fits ....
"You may not have enjoyed the way she played the character, but she is not a "terrible"
(or what ever term you wish to ascribe) Actor.
"Terrible" actors Do Not Normally Get Hired, nor on average do they continue to keep their job if they are terrible.
(and this is particularly true of Large Hollywood TV/Movie productions)
It annoys the Hell out of me when couch critics say crap like this.
Until you've actually tried to do it for yourself and have proof of that, you have no basis to completely condemn a person's abilities as if it is an actuality.
Especially when it comes to Artistry.
If you don't like how it's being done, then say that, but don't espouse your Feelings as Fact.
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He is probably related to Duras
I do like how the captain of Starbase 5 refer to the screens as if its old fashioned tech, the purists must be wetting their beds over that. The Star Trek 1960's and 1980's producers would have an orgasm over our present day T.V production designs.
Amanda gets to explain why she put up with Sarek's parenting style, she put her husband before her son it saved her marriage but messed up her son.
No he did not, he said he could live with it, and he did.
They need even more, especially for the command training
Its the 23rd century, cosmetic surgery is cheap or Vulcan medicine can slow the aging process
For the fans missing the Utopian Federation you never watched TOS it was never a Utopian society, as Kirk said humans evolved to the state where they can decide 'we are not going to kill today'. Not 'we are not going to kill ever'. This is the TOS period that has 'caste system and slavery is legal' Ardana as a member.
Watching it again PG making cute faces at Voq Jr baby then acting as if she does not care when caught lol
She will be Spock's third cousin twice removed
She sacrificed her children for her marriage, she lived in that house and watched Sarek do his logical Vulcan parenting skills on three children which ended in psychological disaster. She gets an award for dysfunctional mother of the year. TOS Amanda said the Vulcan way is hard, but a better way than the human method. Maybe she liked wearing all those fancy robes.
I blame the aspect of Star Trek with its monolithic cultures, its rubbing off on some folks who think all humans are the same as well. All Vulcan are logical, all Klingons are violent soldiers and all humans hate Discovery.
Star Trek, the bar where everyone knows your mother.
Hands up all the people who every week tell their colleagues, lovers or best friends their childhood dreams and nightmares...or even their adult ones.
They must be Klingons!
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Quote of the Year.
Mia Kirshner is "too young" by only four years anyway. Jane Wyatt was 57 when "Journey to Babel" was filmed, Kirshner was 43 in "Point of Light", Discovery is set ten years earlier. Then again, maybe Kirshner did have plastic surgery.
Not just a Trekkie/Star Wars thing. You see this with pretty much every durable pop-cultural property that gets revived and revamped over time.
When SMALLVILLE debuted way back when, some long-time Superman fans were disappointed. They made it clear that they would have preferred a "proper" SUPERMAN tv series--flights and tights and all--instead of a WB-friendly teenage soap opera version of Superman. Fair enough. That's a perfectly valid reaction. SMALLVILLE was specifically pitched at a certain demographic and was not for everyone.
But what was weird was when the same people came back week after week, season after season, to complain that SMALLVILLE was, um, a WB-friendly teenage soap opera version of Superman.
Well, yeah. That's what SMALLVILLE was. After a while, complaining that SMALLVILLE was SMALLVILLE seemed a bit silly and pointless. The show was what it was. If it wasn't what you wanted from a Superman show, why keep watching it?
It's not acting when you're a teenage girl pretending to be a teenage girl.
Has she played anything very-very different than whatever she is, when she is acting.
Has she played anything very-very different than whatever she is, when she is acting.
Like you I'm not a fan of SMG's performance of Burnham but I'm still not certain if it's the actress' ability or just that her particular style doesn't really suit the character? There's just something fundamentally off about her that i can't quite put my finger on.
That said..
Pro
- It was surprisingly interesting to see the intrigue on Quonos.
- Section 31 involvement
- Shazad Latif as Ash/Voq
Cons
- Every scene that touches on the Amanda, Spock, Sarek and Burnham relationship. Everything I've seen so far only cements further the fact that shoehorning in Spock (and company) in order to try to elicit instant credibility for the show from fans was a terrible idea.
- Tilly's outburst on the bridge seemed to me almost no different than all of her other histrionic chatter....I'm not sure why the bridge crew reacted like it was so out of character for her to blurt out some random inappropriate thing. I mean if she was my co-worker at this point I'd probably rolled my eyes and sayto myself "there she goes again"
I agree, but the character's speech comes off a little jarring at times. This, however, is to expected based on who she actually is: not quite Vulcan. Somewhere between Spock and a naturally sounding human is going to sound off.
I like Michael, but that doesn't mean she's among my favourite characters in the show. And not being among my favourites doesn't make her terrible, just facing tough competition.
He also does a very good Prime Lorca impression. I hope we see him soon.
I love that every Tom, Dick and Harry seems to know about Section 31. They’re not doing a very good job there.
That much I agree with - the cast are a strong field of actors and she doesn't shine brightly among them particularly. She isn't an Avery Brooks, stealing every scene he's in. Oddly, she's probably closer to who they imagined for Sisko before the casting changed that character - the commander not the Captain, a bit unsure, a bit less effusive a personality than Picard or Kirk or Janeway. This is played well, but it means the lead sinks into the crowd a lot more.
There's no evidence of that.
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