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The Real Ghostbusters -First time watching since childhood

They added the series to Netflix a couple months ago and so I've gone back to it and watched some more episodes off and on. I'm really enjoying it now.
I watched Knock, Knock this morning.
It really surprises me how creepy some of these actually been, the possessed subway cars in this one were especially freaky. Some of the creature designs have been pretty good.

The visuals, story and dialogue can get really dark - but you never notice, because of the blaring THEME MUSIC anthem playing the entire time through the montages. It takes any suspense possible right out of the show. Someone needs to do an audio fanedit....
 
Also note, words like "syndication" and "network tv" don't mean a damn thing to a British kid in the 80's. We had four channels.

Sorry. It's relevant here because syndicated weekday-afternoon shows were under less censorship and pressure to be kid-friendly than Saturday morning shows on one of the broadcast networks. Thus, the syndicated episodes of The Real Ghostbusters (basically episodes 14-78) were the ones that were made with the most creative freedom and had the most depth, sophistication, and innovation. Although their animation quality wasn't as consistent as the Saturday morning seasons, because they had to make 5 times as many episodes in the same amount of time.
 
Any episode with Dave Coulier instead of Lorenzo Music is automatically inferior, IMO.
 
Any episode with Dave Coulier instead of Lorenzo Music is automatically inferior, IMO.

Yeah, that recasting happened roughly at the start of the more kid-friendly Saturday morning era (although there's just one episode with Coulier at the end of the syndicated season). Also, Kath Soucie replaced Laura Summer as Janine at the same time. And a year later, Buster Jones replaced Arsenio Hall as Winston.
 
I recall reading that one influence on Lorenzo's departure might have been a comment by Bill Murray, who pointed out that Music's voice for Peter was basically the same as Garfield and Bill felt it didn't sound like him. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that VAs "borrowed" voices from other works on purpose or unwittingly. Frank Welker occasionally voiced Blades in S3 of Transformers, and that voice essentially was Ray's, and on one occasion voiced a GB character exactly like Galvatron in TF :D. Ernie Hudson auditioned to voice Winston on RGB, but lost the role to Arsenio Hall.
 
Dave Coulier actually did have a pretty good Bill Murray impression but it seemed more like Carl Spackler than Peter Venkman.
 
I recall reading that one influence on Lorenzo's departure might have been a comment by Bill Murray, who pointed out that Music's voice for Peter was basically the same as Garfield and Bill felt it didn't sound like him.

Which makes it ironic that Murray later voiced Garfield in movies.

Anyway, Murray just made the observation that Venkman sounded like Garfield and didn't mean anything by it, but somebody mistook it for a complaint and fired Music. Which is a shame, since Dave Coulier may have been good at sounding like Bill Murray, but he didn't give anywhere near as interesting a performance as Music had.


It certainly wouldn't be the first time that VAs "borrowed" voices from other works on purpose or unwittingly.

Lorenzo Music pretty much just had the one voice. He wasn't a vocal chameleon like Frank Welker or Maurice LaMarche; nearly all his characters, from Carlton the Doorman to Garfield to Venkman to anyone else, just sounded like Lorenzo Music. Well, except for Venkman's dad, who sounded like Lorenzo Music trying to sound older and more gravelly.


Frank Welker occasionally voiced Blades in S3 of Transformers, and that voice essentially was Ray's, and on one occasion voiced a GB character exactly like Galvatron in TF :D.

Most voice actors have a range of standard voices that they use for various characters with minor variations, since there are only so many ways to modulate one's voice. Frank Welker has played so many roles in animation that any given one of his voices has been used for numerous characters. His Ray voice was basically his Fred voice from Scooby-Doo (his debut voice role, and a role he's still playing more than 50 years later), which is just his own voice but slightly higher and more boyish.


Ernie Hudson auditioned to voice Winston on RGB, but lost the role to Arsenio Hall.

Which was less surprising to me when I heard Hudson's rather mediocre performance as Cyborg in Super Friends' later seasons, just a year before RGB came out. Hudson's a fine actor, of course, but voice acting is a specialized discipline that live-action performers aren't necessarily good at when they start out. At the time, Arsenio Hall was a more skillful voice actor than Hudson was, although Hudson has improved considerably in that area in the decades since.

But I really liked Hall's work as Winston, as well as the way he was written. In the movies, Winston was the afterthought, the Zeppo of the group. But in the cartoon, he was a full equal to the other three, and he was consistently the most levelheaded and together guy, while able to hold his own in the humor department. Hall's voice work made him a character I really liked and respected.
 
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