Huh? "Amok Time" was pretty clear that he'd never gone through pon farr before, or he would've already been married to T'Pring. Do you mean his betrothal when he was seven? What would be the problem there?
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Huh? "Amok Time" was pretty clear that he'd never gone through pon farr before, or he would've already been married to T'Pring. Do you mean his betrothal when he was seven? What would be the problem there?
Haha, no, I mean exactly the crazy thing that I said. Over in the DSC forum in the s2 premiere discussion there's a couple posters who think that Spock and Michael have had some kind of romantic affair or that Spock fell in love with her or she gave him a helping hand during some secret Pon Farr that they only knew about...or something.
Needless to say, I was mortified.
Egad.
RIGHT? LOL.
Gross. LOL. I'd like to believe this theory is crazy, but then again, I thought it was crazy that Ash is actually Voq. Like...PHYSICALLY Voq. That whole puppet skin and mind sifted consciousness thing was too crazy to be true...and then it was true. I'll never let this one go.
If you had the ability to put one mind in another...why transform a monstrous Klingon body to look human when you can just put the Klingon mind into the original, said human!? Never. letting. this. go.
I would assume it was because the implanted mind was intended to be simply an overlay on the real personality, and that the real personality would be ultimately running the show beneath the camouflage. IIRC, Tyler's personality wasn't intended to be permanently dominant; the plan was for Voq to eventually reassert himself, although it didn't go according to plan. So it had to be the real Voq with a fake Tyler personality superimposed on him, not the other way around.
Sure it makes sense if you explain it, Christopher. Lol.
Kidding aside, that does make sense. But it's still crazy though. I mean, they did saw his bones up with literal saws and skinned original Tyler and made a catsuit out of him for a plan that didn't even work right.
Kidding aside, that does make sense. But it's still crazy though. I mean, they did saw his bones up with literal saws and skinned original Tyler and made a catsuit out of him for a plan that didn't even work right.
I saw that in the thread, and this represents my reaction pretty well
Glad to know I'm not the only one feels that way.
I couldn't believe they suggested it!
I can believe people would suggest it - I was around when people were all on board the idea of Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennett being paired up, even AFTER the reveal that he was her uncle. Hell, there’s still plenty of shipping of Sam and Dean Winchester. Even actual blood relation isn’t enough to stop some people.
It should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway that I don’t want things to go there. I don’t expect it will, between canon and decency, but it doesn’t hurt to reiterate that.
It should go without saying, but I’ll say it anyway that I don’t want things to go there. I don’t expect it will, between canon and decency, but it doesn’t hurt to reiterate that.
Look! It's a thing that's more gross than Spock and Michael getting it on! Lol, for a second I actually thought, "I don't remember the Slitheen being that ugly. Oh wait LOL."
I've heard about this kind of stuff, but I like to try to pretend it doesn't exist.
I'm pretty sure that was an equally shaggy-and-bearded Tyler.
The idea of that person being anyone other than Tyler didn't occur to me.
Klingons don't generally do things by half-measures.
It aligns pretty well with IDW's Klingons: Blood Will Tell miniseries and its depiction of Arne Darvin's backstory, in terms of the methodology of changing a Hem'Quch Klingon into an apparent human, although without the memory overlay -- presumably they gave up on that after its failure with Voq. The main inconsistency is that BWT implied that it was a novelty for the Klingons to use espionage, after the Organian Treaty had ruled out their usual open conquest and required them to try subtler methods. But that can be finessed.
I just flipped through the book very quickly, and it looks like while Saru and Pike do interact once, they're never introduced, and Pike is on the other end of a holo-call while Saru is reporting to Georgiou. I may have missed something, but it looks like we may actually be safe by the letter of the law.
The situation reminds me a little of how Rey and Poe never meet in "The Force Awakens" (though they did in a deleted scene), so they had them talk for, explicitly, the first time in "The Last Jedi." Even though we never saw them interact, it still feels a little odd that they hadn't (especially since there were a couple scenes at the end of TFA where they were standing right next to each other).
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I don't think anyone wants Michael and Spock to have that kind of relationship, we just fear these writers doing it for shock value and clicks online. What's succesful? Game of Thrones. What does Game of Thrones have? Incest. How can we bring some of that success to Star Trek? That's the kind of dumb throught proccess we're afraid of, from the same people who turned Lorca into a cartoon villian and think a show about a cannibal Space Hitler is a good idea.