Now that's a 23rd century Klingon battle cruiser!
Starship design history in light of Discovery
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Yep, and also that of the I.K.S. Gr'oth from "Trials and Tribbleations(DS9)."
The USS Hiawatha
She’s a medical transport IIRC
Looks a lot like a kitbash. Which it probably is. Which is perfectly fine for a civilian ship-of-the-week!
Almost everything about it looks dead-on, but the engines look a little on the long-and-thin side from the original D-7. However, taking into account how non-Klingon the other ships have looked up until this point, I shan't complain.Hello there. Either this is a new shot or the same one before but with changed VFX
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Its close enough and a major improvement on the cobbled together rubbish we saw last season.Almost everything about it looks dead-on, but the engines look a little on the long-and-thin side from the original D-7. However, taking into account how non-Klingon the other ships have looked up until this point, I shan't complain.
Its one of the aspects that ruined emersion for me.
IIRC, Saru called it a "medical frigate" which would mark the first time the starship nomenclature of "frigate" (usually relegated to fandom starship design) was used canonically in an episode.The USS Hiawatha
She’s a medical transport IIRC
Agreed. Nice to see they're paying attention to some of the bigger problems the fans had with the visual choices made last year and making a concerted effort to fix them.
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Gonzo
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They really did make things worse for themselves last year, hopefully they have learned their lesson.
Pike is probably going to be front and centre in this season and if all goes well I wont be surprised if we get a Pike/Enterprise precursor to a reboot ToS sooner rather than later.
Looks like the little support ships from Star Trek Armada.The USS Hiawatha
She’s a medical transport IIRC
It looks kind of related to the ECS type ships from ENT, but oddly enough it really reminded me of the Discovery Class
So this is about the best capture I and my lowly potato computer could obtain of the two tugs, but looking at them, I do believe these are Ptolemy class ships. they may end up calling them something else but they look right out of the Franz Joseph book. While they've been seen in diagrams in the movies before (Directly lifted from the SFTM of course) this would be their first true on screen appearance.
Isn't Captain Riix's ship called a 'frigate' in Conspiracy?
Well, damn - I stand corrected! I had no idea the New Orleans class was referred to as a frigate. I'll have to change that in my database. I don't remember it actually being mentioned in-dialogue, though. Must have been in an Okudagram or something?
So this is about the best capture I and my lowly potato computer could obtain of the two tugs, but looking at them, I do believe these are Ptolemy class ships. they may end up calling them something else but they look right out of the Franz Joseph book. While they've been seen in diagrams in the movies before (Directly lifted from the SFTM of course) this would be their first true on screen appearance.
I'm forced to agree, and by "forced" I mean completely happy to.
I think them being New Orleans class comes from an Okudagram later on. Worf just notes the Renegade and the Thomas Paine are frigates, and Walker Keel's ship, the Horatio, is a heavy cruiser. ISTR it's later called Ambassador class, which is later retconned to be the same type as the Enterprise-C. We never see any of the ships in Conspiracy, so it's no problem.
It was in dialogue
WORF: Two are frigates. The Renegade commanded by Tryla Scott, and the Thomas Paine, Captain Rixx commanding.
Hmm. Accepting background Okuda stuff as part of the scheme, it seems that "medical" somethingorother means "variant" or "conversion" and separates these ships from proper hospital ships like the Pasteur. That is, the Hiawatha has the "medical" bit combined with "frigate" and interiors that look highly impractical for a purpose-built hospital or ambulance, and the Fleming Okudaically shares class with the explicit light cruiser Drake.
Does Saru have eidetic memory? He seems to recognize the ship by her registry before any actual records are brought up. Or is this proof that registries are immediately informative and anything in the first three decades of the 800 category is a medical frigate?
Timo Saloniemi
Does Saru have eidetic memory? He seems to recognize the ship by her registry before any actual records are brought up. Or is this proof that registries are immediately informative and anything in the first three decades of the 800 category is a medical frigate?
Timo Saloniemi
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