Case dismissed! Discovery and Tardigrade game "not similar"

[DaveyNY]

So, as as several of us have intoned, they are essentially 'grasping at straws' and the further this goes the more obvious that becomes.
That, and the guy apparently hired the worst copyright lawyers he could find.
Sheesh...

Also, said lawyer is the one who will have brought the wrath of internet trolls down upon that writer, not anybody reporting on the story.

And the one that was singled out, wasn't even part of the Discovery production team until well after the basic premise and main details were created.

What was that quote ... ? ...
"... but like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target..."

 

[BillJ]

THAT, and the guy apparently hired the worst copyright lawyers he could find.

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[MakeshiftPython]

Never heard of this game or ever played it, but I support the lawsuit anyway because I hate STD that much.

 

[DaveyNY]

Never heard of this game or ever played it, but I support the lawsuit anyway because I hate STD that much.

I guess disappointment is your way of enjoying life then?

Personally, I go out of my way to try to avoid it.
Not the other way around.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I guess disappointment is your way of enjoying life then?

Given my dating life, probably.

 

[DaveyNY]

Given my dating life, probably.

Perhaps it's time to expand your horizons?

 

[seigezunt]

Never heard of this game or ever played it, but I support the lawsuit anyway because I hate STD that much.

This really is the only reason this lawsuit has gained any traction. Puts it succinctly.

 

[DaveyNY]

This really is the only reason this lawsuit has gained any traction. Puts it succinctly.

I wondered early on if Abdin proceeded with the suit mostly due to being egged on by the negative voices of the internetz.
If it turns out badly for him, it would be nice if those same voices help contribute to any financial consequences he might suffer.
But I know that's an even longer shot than his lawsuit.

 

[mos6507]

What are the odds that somebody on the Discovery Production Team had a STEAM Account, saw Abdin's game, and then actually voted for it.

Plagiarism existed before digital paper-trails ya know.

 

[Tuskin38]

Plagiarism existed before digital paper-trails ya know.

Ok? What’s that have to do with anything?

 

[DaveyNY]

Plagiarism existed before digital paper-trails ya know.

Very true, but Abdin's entire case rests completely in the DIgital World of the Internet.
And I'm not really sure why one would apply that info, to this particular part of my overall post?

I was speculating on the odds of the happenstance actually occurring, not denying that there's past precedent for actual case law.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Perhaps it's time to expand your horizons?

 

[DaveyNY]

I don't think Tan and Maroon together, would be a good color scheme for you.

 

[saladdays]

Never heard of this game or ever played it, but I support the lawsuit anyway because I hate STD that much.

So you're one of those people, huh?

 

[Rahul]

A federal judge challenges game developer Anas Abdin to show proof Star Trek: Discovery creators had seen his Tardigrades game before developing the TV series.

This. This right here, is why the American court system is totally fucked up beyond repair. It has basically encoded "size of business" as a deciding factor into the fucking law when determining cases.

That's why big companies like Disney have hundreds of worker bees, farming through all original properties they can find. Than they cherry-pick the most promising ideas, and completely rip them off. There is barely an "original" Disney property coming out in the last decades that was not a direct rip-off from a much lesser known, independant property.

Then the suing party has to "prove" how certain writers had seen their tiny property - virtually impossible. Only for YEARS LATER, the actual writers coming clear - yeah, of course they knew about "the white lion" when they were writing their "Lion King". But fuck them trying to prove that back then. It's impossible.

An actual fair justice system would rule on the content itself - the idea as it is depicted in media - is the change of a Tardigrade to human-size, added blue colors and blue sparkles, serving as a weird FTL-drive - is the realization of that unique enough to warrant "first dips" or not? That should be the real question.

As it is, the current law basically says "Big corporation wins". By default, and without any chances for anyone not being backed by a big corporation whatsoever.
You're a big company? Everyone must always assume anyone else has seen your stuff. You win if a small Indie creates something only vaguely similar. You make something exactly like a small Indie has already done? Small Indie has to prove not just that it's likely big company saw it, but find specific person and when and where they saw and copied it, which is utterly impossible.

Big corporation wins. Always. Lobbyists managed to code that into the text of the law itself. Ideas themselves don't count as much as the wallet of the company that "owns" the idea. Fucked up.

 

[BillJ]

This. This right here, is why the American court system is totally fucked up beyond repair. It has basically encoded "size of business" as a deciding factor into the fucking law when determining cases.

Um... so you're saying the complainant shouldn't have to prove their case? How else can he prove his case if he doesn't have evidence to back it up?

 

[Tuskin38]

This. This right here, is why the American court system is totally fucked up beyond repair. It has basically encoded "size of business" as a deciding factor into the fucking law when determining cases.

That's why big companies like Disney have hundreds of worker bees, farming through all original properties they can find. Than they cherry-pick the most promising ideas, and completely rip them off. There is barely an "original" Disney property coming out in the last decades that was not a direct rip-off from a much lesser known, independant property.

Then the suing party has to "prove" how certain writers had seen their tiny property - virtually impossible. Only for YEARS LATER, the actual writers coming clear - yeah, of course they knew about "the white lion" when they were writing their "Lion King". But fuck them trying to prove that back then. It's impossible.

An actual fair justice system would rule on the content itself - the idea as it is depicted in media - is the change of a Tardigrade to human-size, added blue colors and blue sparkles, serving as a weird FTL-drive - is the realization of that unique enough to warrant "first dips" or not? That should be the real question.

As it is, the current law basically says "Big corporation wins". By default, and without any chances for anyone not being backed by a big corporation whatsoever.
You're a big company? Everyone must always assume anyone else has seen your stuff. You win if a small Indie creates something only vaguely similar. You make something exactly like a small Indie has already done? Small Indie has to prove not just that it's likely big company saw it, but find specific person and when and where they saw and copied it, which is utterly impossible.

Big corporation wins. Always. Lobbyists managed to code that into the text of the law itself. Ideas themselves don't count as much as the wallet of the company that "owns" the idea. Fucked up.

Are you saying they don't need to present evidence?
Seems like a shitty way to run a court.

- is the change of a Tardigrade to human-size,

The Tardigrade was originally conceived to be Stamet's superior officer, so it would have needed to be human size, or at least big enough to be an officer. So that idea is disconnected from what happened later in development.

 

[DaveyNY]

This. This right here, is why the American court system is totally fucked up beyond repair. It has basically encoded "size of business" as a deciding factor into the fucking law when determining cases.

That's why big companies like Disney have hundreds of worker bees, farming through all original properties they can find. Than they cherry-pick the most promising ideas, and completely rip them off. There is barely an "original" Disney property coming out in the last decades that was not a direct rip-off from a much lesser known, independant property.

Then the suing party has to "prove" how certain writers had seen their tiny property - virtually impossible. Only for YEARS LATER, the actual writers coming clear - yeah, of course they knew about "the white lion" when they were writing their "Lion King". But fuck them trying to prove that back then. It's impossible.

An actual fair justice system would rule on the content itself - the idea as it is depicted in media - is the change of a Tardigrade to human-size, added blue colors and blue sparkles, serving as a weird FTL-drive - is the realization of that unique enough to warrant "first dips" or not? That should be the real question.

As it is, the current law basically says "Big corporation wins". By default, and without any chances for anyone not being backed by a big corporation whatsoever.
You're a big company? Everyone must always assume anyone else has seen your stuff. You win if a small Indie creates something only vaguely similar. You make something exactly like a small Indie has already done? Small Indie has to prove not just that it's likely big company saw it, but find specific person and when and where they saw and copied it, which is utterly impossible.

Big corporation wins. Always. Lobbyists managed to code that into the text of the law itself. Ideas themselves don't count as much as the wallet of the company that "owns" the idea. Fucked up.

I'm fairly certain that having actual evidence that something nefarious has occurred, was a basic tenant of US Law long before Big Corporations came into the picture.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm fairly certain that having actual evidence that something nefarious has occurred, was a basic tenant of US Law long before Big Corporations came into the picture.

And not just US Law either. Probably.

 

[DaveyNY]

And not just US Law either. Probably.

Perhaps not in "The Court Of Fools" though.