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Question: Where is it explicitly said that Kirk took command immediately after Pike?

Only if he gets an eye patch. And wooden leg. And hook hand.

No, no, no...a cybernetic eye like Thor's but less advanced that needs a housing that looks like a patch, a similarly primitive hydraulic leg and a multi-tool hand with tiny phaser.

And some gold pressed latinum teeth, that way he can hide a small fortune in his head.
 
Captain Janeway. Ben Sisko.

This one is orders of magnitude greater than any before, though. Instant transit anywhere in the mutliverse and possibly through time as well.
How many different time travel tech have we seen and then its gone?

I still struggle with the whole "slap in the face" bit too. That makes no sense thus far as presented.
Yeah, too bad Janeway knew nothing about the spore drive. Star Trek: Voyager would have just been a two-hour TV movie.
Or the modifications the Kelvans made to the Enterprise. Or met the Traveller and all the warp data from going to Warp 10. Or too bad the Medusans are no longer part of the Federation to modify engines to go outside the galaxy.
 
Not really
By all means, tell me of an invention in Trek that comes close to this one.

This is the ability to appear anywhere in the universe. Cross over to other universes. Skip ahead (and probably back too) in time. All in one thing.

It makes the modifications the Kelvans made to Kirk's Enterprise into a joke. 300 years to Andromeda? Try 3 seconds. Borg transwarp and quantum slipstream? They're virtually standing still compared. They can likely jump to wherever The Traveller put the Enterprise-D and back without needing the crew to join hands and think good thoughts.
 
By all means, tell me of an invention in Trek that comes close to this one.

This is the ability to appear anywhere in the universe. Cross over to other universes. Skip ahead (and probably back too) in time. All in one thing.

It makes the modifications the Kelvans made to Kirk's Enterprise into a joke. 300 years to Andromeda? Try 3 seconds. Borg transwarp and quantum slipstream? They're virtually standing still compared. They can likely jump to wherever The Traveller put the Enterprise-D and back without needing the crew to join hands and think good thoughts.
We also don't have the end of the story.
 
By all means, tell me of an invention in Trek that comes close to this one.

This is the ability to appear anywhere in the universe. Cross over to other universes. Skip ahead (and probably back too) in time. All in one thing.

It makes the modifications the Kelvans made to Kirk's Enterprise into a joke. 300 years to Andromeda? Try 3 seconds. Borg transwarp and quantum slipstream? They're virtually standing still compared. They can likely jump to wherever The Traveller put the Enterprise-D and back without needing the crew to join hands and think good thoughts.
As fireproof said, the story isn't over yet.
 
What it's done to Stamets in the first season is a pretty good reason for starters. A propulsion drive that depends on a sentient being to operate it is pretty dicey. It just is. The only other Major Race that's been exposed to it are the Klingons. If the Klingons can't duplicate the technology for Bullshit Technobabble Reasons (it's not like Star Trek hasn't done that before) and Starfleet decides, after evaluating the Spore Drive, that it's more trouble than it's worth and scraps the technology, then problem solved. "We can still explore space but we'll explore it the old-fashioned way!" Cue Captain Kirk and the USS Enterprise going out there to explore strange new worlds on a five-year mission.
 
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The story can only end one of two ways. Either they continue to use to spore drive, or they don’t. If this is the “prime” universe, then it’s the latter. But then there better be one hell of a good reason why.
I can't help but think back to the nonsensical finale to the Klingon war and wonder if they have any idea how to make their spore drive go away when the time comes.
What it's done to Stamets in the first season is a pretty good reason for starters. A propulsion drive that depends on a sentient being to operate it is pretty dicey. It just is. The only other Major Race that's been exposed to it are the Klingons. If the Klingons can't duplicate the technology for Bullshit Technobabble Reasons (it's not like Star Trek hasn't done that before) and Starfleet decides, after evaluating the Spore Drive, that it's more trouble than it's worth and scraps the technology, then problem solved. "We can still explore space but we'll explore it the old-fashioned way!" Cue Captain Kirk and the USS Enterprise going out there to explore strange new worlds on a five-year mission.
Voyager was stuck 75 years from home and ultimately, Paul Stamets was fine. The Voyager crew would be climbing over each other to plug themselves in to risk a single jump home.
And when the Dominion were about to overrun the Federation? They attempted genocide, yet a technology with a minor risk to one user, which would have tipped the balance of power is too much?
 
Voyager was stuck 75 years from home and ultimately, Paul Stamets was fine. The Voyager crew would be climbing over each other to plug themselves in to risk a single jump home.
And when the Dominion were about to overrun the Federation? They attempted genocide, yet a technology with a minor risk to one user, which would have tipped the balance of power is too much?

Paul Stamets was fine? You've got to be kidding me. The end of "Into the Forest I Go" disagrees with you.

Tell you what. If Starfleet begins putting the Spore Drive on other ships in the fleet in this series or one of its spin-offs, and it becomes an ongoing thing, then I'm with you. If not, no.
 
Paul Stamets was fine? You've got to be kidding me. The end of "Into the Forest I Go" disagrees with you.
That was due to meddling from Lorca and damage to the spore network by Mirror Stamets. For the rest of the series, he got a little high but was otherwise fine. That was also one jump out of 130+.

Imagine a Federation that would condemn Voyager's crew to a 75 year journey because one engineer getting high on sporestuff for one jump was unacceptable:lol:
 
That was due to meddling from Lorca and damage to the spore network by Mirror Stamets. For the rest of the series, he got a little high but was otherwise fine. That was also one jump out of 130+.

Imagine a Federation that would condemn Voyager's crew to a 75 year journey because one engineer getting high on sporestuff for one jump was unacceptable:lol:

So, I did some looking up on the Mycelial Network and, apparently, Prototaxites Stellaviatori is what the Spore Drive is based off of. Prototaxites on Earth is extinct but existed here 420 to 370 Million years ago. There's Prototaxites Stellaviatori on whatever world Stamets found it on. But... what if that's the only way to get into the Mycelial Network and those specific types of spores don't exist in the Delta Quadrant? What if they can't find a pair on their way for Kes to grow in the Hydroponics Bay?

Links: Prototaxites Stellaviatori, Mycelial Network, Spore Drive

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I feel ridiculous having just typed all that. Yes, I'm 100% aware of this. I'm bowing to the absurd. This is why it's called "technobabble". And this is the worst type: biotechnobabble!

On another note: What's with that spore thing that landed on Tilly?
 
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