If not it should be.
Spock I mean. Not Satan
Spock Leonard James Jean-Luc William Smith. Sounds good!
Poll How do they celebrate Christmas in the Trekverse?
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Spock Leonard James Jean-Luc William Smith. Sounds good!
Wasn't one of the early TNG comics some absolutely insane attempt at a Christmas story? They encounter a giant Christmas tree floating in space, Santa saves them, etc.
Edit: yep!
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_in_the_Sky!?file=TNG_comic_2.jpg
Edit: yep!
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_in_the_Sky!?file=TNG_comic_2.jpg
You don't need to be religious to celebrate parts of Christmas.
It's slowly evolving into a Holiday about family and gift giving.
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I always liked that one. Though I tend to like Trek when it is weird and wild like The Twilight Zone, versus monotonous war and political stories that I can get pretty much everywhere.
There are some very vocal people who complain about "taking the Christ out of Christmas." Usually railing against First Amendment issues, or against such generic greetings as "Season's Greetings" and "Happy Holidays" (both of which originated over a century ago). Or claiming that the idea of absolute church-state separation is a 20th century notion, and came from aggressive atheists like Madalyn Murray O'Hair (it actually predated the First Amendment, predated the Constitution, and predated the Declaration of Independence, and came from a man named Roger Williams. The Rev'd Roger Williams, founder of the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations (starting in 1636), who envisioned his colony as a haven for people of all faiths).
They're right about there being people trying to "take the Christ out of Christmas." They're just shooting at the wrong target. Charlie Brown, Lucy, and Linus were much closer to the right target. Because it's not liberals, or atheists, or religious minorities. It's Madison Avenue, trying to take a religious feast day, and the 12-day liturgical season that begins on that day, and turn it into a month-long commercial feeding frenzy, running from "Black Friday" (remember when merchants didn't talk about "Black Friday" with each other, and said even less about it to outsiders?) to December 24th.
Hopefully, in Star Trek's post-scarcity economy, Christmas, and gift-giving in general, will have shed its commercialism.
They're right about there being people trying to "take the Christ out of Christmas." They're just shooting at the wrong target. Charlie Brown, Lucy, and Linus were much closer to the right target. Because it's not liberals, or atheists, or religious minorities. It's Madison Avenue, trying to take a religious feast day, and the 12-day liturgical season that begins on that day, and turn it into a month-long commercial feeding frenzy, running from "Black Friday" (remember when merchants didn't talk about "Black Friday" with each other, and said even less about it to outsiders?) to December 24th.
Hopefully, in Star Trek's post-scarcity economy, Christmas, and gift-giving in general, will have shed its commercialism.
I don't blame Madison Avenue. They are only doing what people allow them to do. If there were to have been major backlashes and retailers suffering by people refusing to do business with them, they would've had to go down a different avenue.
I don't think so. Cutting down trees and setting them up in rooms with Christmas lightning and pomp doesn't seem logical.
"How do they celebrate Christmas in the Trekverse"?
The same way they celebrate Hanukkah and Chinese New Year
Most of Quark's customers are Bajoran, why should they honor any human holiday?
The same way they celebrate Hanukkah and Chinese New Year
Most of Quark's customers are Bajoran, why should they honor any human holiday?
I will always believe that "Spock" is the Human (Dutch) name that Amanda gave him in honor of the famous pediatrician, and because it sounded vaguely Vulcan. It might sound nonsensical or alien to the Vulcan language (for example, there is no other use of the "sp" digraph in all other canon Vulcan names).
She probably used Dr. Spock's techniques when raising her son (and Michael and maybe the older Sybok). This is also why Mr. Spock is a vegetarian and gets along well with hippies.
I would imagine that there are a fair number of Humans living, studying and visiting Vulcans. If Vulcan have plant nurseries so that Vulcan can obtain plants for inside their home and outside as well, then Vulcan merchants (and we know they exist) would be amiss not to carry some trees and poinsettias prior to Christmas.
Because of Amanda, there was probably a Christmas tree in Spock's home growing up.
Would Vulcans themselves have Christmas trees? Might depend of how many (if any) through the centuries became Christians.
Aboard a starship, it might depend on the present crew compliment. If there were no Muslims then no Ramadan, no Jews then no Hanukkah, no Christians no Easter. Different alien species would have their various holidays, but if there were no representatives at the given time then no observances.
Bajorans? It seems (and maybe I didn't notice) that most of his customers are non-Bajorans.
Humans and other aliens yes. Kira does go in, and Quark has Bajoran dabo girls, but not many Bajoran customers in the mix.
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Considering Kirk's awkwardness around her I was thinking he drank a little too much and it went as far as a kiss.
I did not know this, but henceforth will bring it up in every religeous discussion I have until the day I die.
Assuming that's in Amanda's background. For all we know, she's Wiccan, Buddhist, was raised in some futuristic century tradition dating back to the 22nd century, or none of the above. Pretty much all we know about Amanda is that she was a school teacher and she married a Vulcan.
Whenever the stardate strikes 25.25 low-hum Christmas musak plays over all comms, replicators include a candy cane with every order, and the same system that the ship employs to clean itself makes sure to line all the corridor corners with fresh powder. That's also the day the captain dons his Holiday apparel and gives everyone their year-end review.
At the end of the day, the stardate strikes 25.26, and it's time to celebrate Andorian Independence Day with a full 26-hour day of chanting and fornication. Both the snow and the candy canes come in surprisingly useful.
Now, when the stardate strikes 25.27, well, let me tell ya...
At the end of the day, the stardate strikes 25.26, and it's time to celebrate Andorian Independence Day with a full 26-hour day of chanting and fornication. Both the snow and the candy canes come in surprisingly useful.
Now, when the stardate strikes 25.27, well, let me tell ya...
I mentioned that myself, a few posts back. We're starting to think alike. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Amanda dressed in the Vulcan manner in every scene we've seen of her. I like to think that she was a human follower of Surakism (Syrranite?) that allowed for expression of emotion since she is unable to repress them in the Vulcan-like manner.
Journey to Babel shows that she at least publicly tries to remain somewhat stoic like other Vulcans.
And if she didn't believe in the Vulcan religion before, she certainly converted after her son rose from the dead.
Journey to Babel shows that she at least publicly tries to remain somewhat stoic like other Vulcans.
And if she didn't believe in the Vulcan religion before, she certainly converted after her son rose from the dead.
Now I'm imagining Amanda in full-on The Wicker Man crazy mode.
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