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Daredevil season 3 Marvel/Netflix

Damn damn damn. Just finished season 3 finale. To me, this was better than JJ season 1. Just plain superb start to glorious finish.

Never has it been clearer that superhero shows rise and fall on the strength of the villain character. Vincent D’Onofrio is perfect as Kingpin. He does subtlely menacing like no other but has that psycho gear into which he can shift in a split second. In fact, the acting overall was the strongest I’ve seen in a superhero show.

But the whole story was brilliantly executed. Matt, Karen and Dex’ storylines were interesting as hell and gut painful. Foggy’s story wan’t as in depth, but was more than he’d gotten before.

Absolutely great, the whole season.

So Dex will become Bullseye? I thought his power was super sharp shooter.

Only down side of this season is that I don’t see how they can match it if they get a 4th season.
 
I watched episode 8 earlier this week, and wow the confrontation between Karen and Fisk was amazing. Seriously great performances from Deborah Ann Woll and Vincent D'Onofrio.
 
I finished up the season, and wow, that last stretch of episodes was amazing. I started with ep. 9 Revelations in the morning, and picked back up in the evening with ep.10 Karen, and after that I couldn't stop and ended up finishing the season.
My thoughts:
Wow, we knew Karen had a pretty tragic backstory, but it ended up being even worse than I expected.
I was sad to see Ray die, I was really hoping to see him get a happy ending. Once he punched Foggy, I knew he was going to end up dead, but I expected him to commit suicide, rather than lure in Dex in to kill him.
Wow, we definitely saw a new side of Vanessa here.
The big church fight and the fight in Fisk's apartment were awesome.
I like how they worked in the Kingpin name.
Fisk's endgame was definitely not what expected.
I really thought Matt was going to kill Fisk for a while there. Their deal at the end was pretty good.
Did the set up with Dex in the last scene come from the comics?
I wonder if we'll see him come back with a costume of his own now?
 
I finished up the season, and wow, that last stretch of episodes was amazing. I started with ep. 9 Revelations in the morning, and picked back up in the evening with ep.10 Karen, and after that I couldn't stop and ended up finishing the season.
My thoughts:
Wow, we knew Karen had a pretty tragic backstory, but it ended up being even worse than I expected.
I was sad to see Ray die, I was really hoping to see him get a happy ending. Once he punched Foggy, I knew he was going to end up dead, but I expected him to commit suicide, rather than lure in Dex in to kill him.
Wow, we definitely saw a new side of Vanessa here.
The big church fight and the fight in Fisk's apartment were awesome.
I like how they worked in the Kingpin name.
Fisk's endgame was definitely not what expected.
I really thought Matt was going to kill Fisk for a while there. Their deal at the end was pretty good.
Did the set up with Dex in the last scene come from the comics?
I wonder if we'll see him come back with a costume of his own now?

To answer your question in the spoiler space, Yes.

In the comics, after Daredevil dropped him from a building and broke his back, Bullseye was given an adamantium spine. The same metal that lines Wolverine's bones.
 
OK. I wonder if it'll be if it'll be Vibranium here instead since we haven't seen Adamantium, or if they'll take advantage of the Fox deal and use this to introduce Adamantium?
 
It's TV and shit like that just kinda happens sometimes. There, I explained it for ya.
 
I think they already mentioned what alloy it was made of, during the surgery scene. It was some other, more obscure Marvel-Universe super-metal, IIRC.
 
I'm assuming she never actually made it to Georgetown between the flashbacks in Karen and meeting Matt and Foggy?
 
To answer your question in the spoiler space, Yes.

In the comics, after Daredevil dropped him from a building and broke his back, Bullseye was given an adamantium spine. The same metal that lines Wolverine's bones.
To add to that:

It wasn't called Adamantium in Daredevil, just an experimental metal. It was retconned to be Adamantium to give Wolverine a connection to the story. So they could easily just follow the comic without using Adamantium
 
Have they explained how Karen Page went from legal assistant to journalist within a few days yet?
That's actually one of the few things that I really don't like about the show. Drives me nuts every time Karen acts like she's some seasoned journalist and Ellison acts like she's the best journalist since Ben Urich. Really, this whole mess would've been avoided if they hadn't prematurely killed off Urich.
 
To add to that:

It wasn't called Adamantium in Daredevil, just an experimental metal. It was retconned to be Adamantium to give Wolverine a connection to the story. So they could easily just follow the comic without using Adamantium
Actually, Wolverine was part of the story right from the start. He guest-starred in Daredevil 196, which is the issue that started the Bullseye recovery arc. His involvement came from hearing that someone was planning to use the same procedure on Bullseye that was used on him.
 
Sorry, I was oversimplifying it. It was to connect Yuriko Oyama to Wolverine. The reason Lady Deathstrike has a problem with Wolverine is because of that retcon.

Here's a good exploration of this.
Ah. Gotcha. :techman:

I've actually read all of those issues described in that piece, and having reviewed it I now actually remember wondering why Deathstrike's beef was with Wolverine and not Bullseye. However, come 2005 and Civil War, I had completely forgotten that connection. Yeah, that's a dumb retcon all right.
 
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I had read the Lady Deathstrike issues first and then I read Daredevil #200 (it's not on Marvel Unlimited, so I had to track down and buy them), so a lot of this only came to me when someone pointed it out.
 
I liked that the doctor working on him was named Oyama.

Well as my comment indicates, I watched the whole season, happy it was 13 episodes, all were good although if I had to pick one to get rid of it would be number 10, it seemed like we had this super tense and thrilling story and we took a good half hour off.

Kingpin was excellent. I loved the deal at the end, it was the only way that Kingpin might actually stay put in jail, he agreed to it to protect Vanessa. However, she didn't agree to anything so I'm sure she will rebuilt something of the empire and get Wilson back out. In the comics Vanessa was even more evil and ruthless than Kingpin, so I'm not surprised by her behavior here except I didn't know if they would retain that. Great resolution to a great plot. Sometimes the set ups are so great the resolutions are a big let down, None of that here! I hope there's more to see, though. I loved Brett clearing Daredevil's name at the end, and even though I was initially disappointed by them losing the costume in the previews it was a great move in the story.

I like Foggy and Marci as a couple. I liked everything about Foggy, really. One minor very minor quibble , I wondered if Foggy couldn't call in help from Luke Cage or Karen contact Frank to handle Bullseye and Kingpin, but that would have been too easy or too final.

To get ready to watch I started over at Daredevil S1 E1 and watched both and Defenders straight through. I'm happy I did, they were all good but S3 really was a great season, a real step up. One of the best seasons of all.

Nadeem was a good addition to the MCU. I love how they can come up with so many good characters that don't even come from the books. I really though Ellison was a goner, happy he made it. Ben may be gone but he's never been forgotten.

I have 100% no problem with Karen being a reporter, she was investigating things from almost the first episode of season 1 and she did spend some time with Ben, in season 2 when she's digging to get the truth about the Punisher conspiracy Ellison sees that she's great at digging up information, why shouldn't she be a reporter?
 
I have 100% no problem with Karen being a reporter, she was investigating things from almost the first episode of season 1 and she did spend some time with Ben, in season 2 when she's digging to get the truth about the Punisher conspiracy Ellison sees that she's great at digging up information, why shouldn't she be a reporter?

Because it's not a job you can just fall into. It would realistically take years of schooling and rising through the ranks before any reporter could earn a position of the sort that Karen had handed to her based on hardly any experience at all.
 
Variety reports that Daredevil has been canceled.

What. The. Fuck.

At this point, all of these cancellations have to signal migration to Disney+.

Right?

“Marvel’s Daredevil will not return for a fourth season on Netflix. We are tremendously proud of the show’s last and final season and although it’s painful for the fans, we feel it best to close this chapter on a high note,” a Netflix spokesperson said in a statement. “We’re thankful to showrunner Erik Oleson, the show’s writers, stellar crew and incredible cast including Charlie Cox as Daredevil himself, and we’re grateful to the fans who have supported the show over the years. While the series on Netflix has ended, the three existing seasons will remain on the service for years to come, while the Daredevil character will live on in future projects for Marvel.”​
 
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