Game CBS announces new Kelvin Universe mobile game

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Red Panda, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. Red Panda

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    https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/star-trek-fleet-command-mobile-1203018132/

    Hard LOL at CBS doing more with the Kelvin Universe than Paramount. They've even got Chris Pine's likeness.
     
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  2. Rahul

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    I never cared for "Star Trek starship battle games". I have yet to play a single one of those that's fun to play.

    But the video looks pretty nice! At least much more timeframe appropriate than the DIS-versions.:guffaw:
     
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    nice to see these federation ships again (outside fan renders) and it's interesting to see the tweaked klingon designs.

    but even as an ardent supporter of continuing the kelvin timeline, i'm curious who they made this game for. and why. it's like a tie-in product that's 9 years late.
     
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    Isn't that the Romulan ship from Nemesis?
     
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    no but it's similar. it's like a combo d'deridex and valdore.
     
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    Hypothetically could we get brand new Kelvin redesigns of classic stuff from TNG?
     
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    [​IMG]
    High levels of fail.
     
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    I tried to look it up but apparently it's ''not available in the UK itunes store'' but is in the Australian one.
     
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    Finally proper phasers!
     
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    That first ship got taken out pretty quickly!
     
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    Cool!

    Also this made me want to watch that hilarious youtube video about the glitchy kelvin timeline videogame they released before stid (8:56 :guffaw:poor Spock)

     
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    Yeah it was severely glitchy, but fun. And the near-constant non-looped banter between the characters was awesome.
     
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  13. Rahul

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    Two things are noticeable:
    1. The rights to the Kelvin-timeline designs have now gone over to CBS hands. That was expected after the "first" trilogy of nuTrek movies are over - CBS owns "Star Trek", but Paramount had probably some exclusivity deal for the run of the movies. Which is now over. Eaglemoss is now allowed to make regular sized Kelvin-models as well, and CBS All Access was allowed to air their new Trek show after "Beyond" finished. Now that they own the design, they gonna' get their money out of it! Even if it's in direct contrast to their own, DIS-era designs. I wonder btw if that's also the reason for the heavy re-design of the nuEnterprise-A? So that Paramunt would have a new, exclusive design if they made the next wave of Kelvin films?
    2. Can this video game serve a similar purpose like ST-online did at the time? That now that it looks as if main series is probably closing, they are continuing the story in video-game (and tie-in material) form?
     
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    you might be overthinking this. CBS and paramount's rights are probably more fluid than you're describing, sort of like how both fox and marvel studios could use quicksilver in their movies because the character could be considered both an x-man and an avenger.
     
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    Pretty sure reboot Trek books released while the movies were ongoing had the CBS logo not the Paramount one.
     
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    funny timing, this tweet went just went up:

    For fans of the Kelvin comics: in the upcoming @StarTrekFleet we are telling new stories in the Kelvin timeline and seeing old friends from the comics. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    The Fox/Marvel ones are strict as hell.
    The only reason both companies were able to use Quicksilver, was because he's on a specific list(!) with characters that both companies own - he is both an X-Men, but primarily a member of the Avengers. For literally every single piece and character, these companies had legal agreements - they used "Ego" (Fox) in GotG 2 (Marvel), and in return Deadpool was able to change the powers of "Negasonic Teenage Warhead". Yes, Fox needed a specific contractual allowence from Marvel AND had to give up a piece of property(!), to depict a superhero with a different set of powers than she has in the comics.

    I SURE HOPE the CBS/Paramount one is not as 100% strict as this. And it sure as hell doesn't - apart from some minor grievances (CBS not pulling it's TOS merchandise while the nuTrek movies tried to sell "their" Spock and Kirk) they seem to get along pretty well. But there is one, obvious rule: CBS owns Star Trek. Paramount is using it in the movies. I think it's pretty much a given that Paramount has some contractual confirmation CBS can't just use the Paramount movie designs in their own television shows or video games. Everything else would be stupid. But at the same time it's also pretty logical that in the long run everything gets back to CBS, the "owners". The only real question was "how long" that was. The answers turned out to be: Three movies.

    All Star Trek books are made by Pocket Books, which is owned by CBS (like all movies are made by Paramount). That means, every book is made either by them, or not at all. That means Pocket Books has an agreement with Paramount to use their designs - probably for a share of the profits. But Paramount can't just sell Star Trek books on their own, the same way CBS can't just make a movie. If they want their Kelvin-timeline to catch on in book form - they have to go through Poket books, and thus through CBS. Which for them is still better than "no books at all". But this is a case of big companies working together on a shared property. NOT a case for "everyone owns everything". Quite the opposite actually.
     
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  18. Malaika

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    I didn't understand that the comics writer is involved.
    Not all devices and countries are supported though.
     
  19. F. King Daniel

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    The 2009 toy line had copyrites for both CBS and Paramount on them, as do the non-S&S books published while the movies were an ongoing thing.
     
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  20. Rahul

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    Yeah of course.
    CBS owns Star Trek. Paramount can't just sell 'Star Trek'-stuff without going through CBS - only make movies and distribute them. But at the same time - CBS couldn't sell "Kelvin-timeline" designs on their own while the trilogy was still running. Both companies must have had a contractual agreement for that.

    But now that the trilogy ahs run it's course, CBS can do that alone. And lo and behold. Nowhere on this game says it "Paramount" anywhere anymore. The rights situation is pretty obvious. Not sure why you continue to bring examples up that exactly describe that situation as if it where somehow a rebuttal?