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Mistakes in the Enterprise?

Realistically, there wouldn't be a whole lot of interesting scenery to see out of the windows most of the time, since the majority of outer space is pretty empty. I'm not sure I would enjoy staring into the abyss of deep space from my quarters day after day. And more windows means more weak points in the hull.

Kor
You just quoted most of the reasons why I am against having windows on the TOS Enterprise! :techman:

...And of course Deck 5 is not an "Enemy Within" feature. Kirk is supposedly on Deck 12 in the early episodes (and Rand is there in this very episode - in Kirk's cabin, or hers?), eliminating any possibility of curvature of ceiling being tied to an exterior feature.
If the scripts were still being based on the early series bible by that stage, then the saucer would be 20 decks thick and so deck 12 would be on the widest part of it...maybe Kirk's windows were on the rim?

My view: a curved ceiling line is what the makers were trying to imply. Just like the curved ceiling beams in the briefing room. I say we're supposed to suspend disbelief and accept the set-building tricks rather than think the ship's ceilings are absurdly high, and architectural features like that are curved for no reason. :bolian:
I suppose that might have been the intent, but then why continue the wall panel lines above the strut? A flat colour would have conveyed a "ceiling" much better

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Spock seems to be having an emotional moment there but I can't for the life of me remember such a scene in that episode? :shrug:
JB
 
I think he's just having a heart-to-heart with Kirk, JB, and is concerned for his friend. It's been about a year since I watched COTK but I think that's just before the phaser goes off.
 
I haven't seen conscience for probably a decade or more, Phase!
JB
Go! Watch! See Barbara Anderson's youthful beauty, and massive cold sore that no makeup could hide, and caused the lighting director to kill half the lights in the observation gallery scene!
:)
 
Windows on starships are optional; by the 23rd Century, the technology would exist to 'wallpaper' an entire cabin with an ultra-thin flatscreen. This would allow them to act as windows, viewscreens tied into sensors, entertainment, or provide a virtual environment, like sleeping next to a waterfall in a forest of what not. Totally customizable. Not something they thought of back in the 60's, but as one of those forward looking technological retcons it would totally work. They are already talking about doing this to the interior of airline cabins. Imagine how people would freak if they turned on a 'clear cabin' mode, making everyone feel like they were sitting in the open air! Some people would never fly again!

Captains could literally monitor the ship's functions from their quarters. And CMOs would have override authority ("Take a break, Jim!") but they could also monitor their patients in real time in their offices. Sick crew could video chat and remotely go on away missions. (Imagine a remotely operated unmanned probe going to a planet incompatible with Humanoid life, with Spock wearing VR goggles on the Enterprise and seeing through its eyes.)
 
I think TNG already did something similar in that episode where Geordi was searching for his mother and her ship.
 
Yeah, I recall that.

I was picturing like when people attend weddings remotely with their face on a tablet screen. Imagine if the aliens living in those harsh conditions thought that's what Humans and Vulcans looked like! (a tall skinny body on wheels with a face on a screen)
 
Go! Watch! See Barbara Anderson's youthful beauty, and massive cold sore that no makeup could hide, and caused the lighting director to kill half the lights in the observation gallery scene!
:)

HaHaHa Really? I can't say I've ever noticed although I'm not that struck on her looks for some strange reason! Yet the Yeoman in The Deadly Years who looks a lot like her I think is great! Go figure that one out if you can! :lol:
JB
 
I think that was the first episode (and maybe only one so far) they discussed day and night lighting for the crew. They anticipated that well. ISS has a day and night lighting cycle as well just to keep crew on a sane circadian rhythm.
 
Sure. But we were talking about windows on the Enterprise, and I wasn't sure if GNDN was making a point related to that.
I think it was concerning the angle of the window-wall. We see the angle in plain view to the right of Spock and it is clearly at a shallower angle than the rim of the ship's saucer.
 
I think it was concerning the angle of the window-wall. We see the angle in plain view to the right of Spock and it is clearly at a shallower angle than the rim of the ship's saucer.
Exactly. Also, the “support frame” is not repeated here, but it is on the opposite bulkhead.
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So, while this feature suggests that Kirk’s quarters are at the edge of the ship, the earlier shot calls that into question, because it appears to be a mere ornament. At least for me.
 
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