Wow, I didn't know he had a name, Thanks! I was really wondering what happened to him after Winter Soldier, that was one of the best scenes in that movie when he was obviously scared to death but wouldn't launch the Hellcarriers.
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Wow, I didn't know he had a name, Thanks! I was really wondering what happened to him after Winter Soldier, that was one of the best scenes in that movie when he was obviously scared to death but wouldn't launch the Hellcarriers.
No, I was just meant that since no one else has a problem with it, then maybe it's not actually a problem.I'm not allowed to take issue with the movie's writing, because no one else has?
He didn't have a name in Winter Soldier, he was credited as "Launch Tech 1". He didn't get a name until Age of Ultron where he had an amusing callback to WS while hiding from an Ultron drone.
Posting this from another thread I just posted in:
I just watched infinity war the other day for the first time.
I thought it telling, and intriguing that, when Dr Strange is running through (trance like) all possible timelines, to see which one results in them defeating Thanos, he only finds x1 timeline out of millions / billions(?) in which they succeed.
Dr Strange afterwards, saves Tony’s life from Thanos, in exchange for the green gem - which is interesting, as up until that point, Strange would have pretty much sacrificed anyone, just to have ensured Thanos did not get his hands on the green gem - however, he then hands it over to Thanos, when Tony is about to be killed.
This abrupt change in Dr Stranges’ behaviour / strategy suggests to me that, when reviewing timelines /realities, Strange saw that Tony was alive in the only reality in which they defeated Thanos.
In other words, the only option was for him to have handed over the gem to Thanos: if he didn’t, Tony would have been killed, and the ‘winning’ reality would not eventuate (if that makes sense).
So he saw that Tony survives in the only single reality that has any chance at defeating Thanos - without Tony, it’s another reality in which they do not win.
Thoughts?
I just watched infinity war the other day for the first time.
I thought it telling, and intriguing that, when Dr Strange is running through (trance like) all possible timelines, to see which one results in them defeating Thanos, he only finds x1 timeline out of millions / billions(?) in which they succeed.
Dr Strange afterwards, saves Tony’s life from Thanos, in exchange for the green gem - which is interesting, as up until that point, Strange would have pretty much sacrificed anyone, just to have ensured Thanos did not get his hands on the green gem - however, he then hands it over to Thanos, when Tony is about to be killed.
This abrupt change in Dr Stranges’ behaviour / strategy suggests to me that, when reviewing timelines /realities, Strange saw that Tony was alive in the only reality in which they defeated Thanos.
In other words, the only option was for him to have handed over the gem to Thanos: if he didn’t, Tony would have been killed, and the ‘winning’ reality would not eventuate (if that makes sense).
So he saw that Tony survives in the only single reality that has any chance at defeating Thanos - without Tony, it’s another reality in which they do not win.
Thoughts?
Another fan theory is that...
it had nothing to do with saving Tony. He just manipulated events to make it look that way so Thanos wouldn’t suspect what he was really up to. The real reason he gave Thanos the Time Stone when he did was to time things so that the Snap would happen while Scott was in the Quantum Realm.
Regardless, this is the only scenario in which they win. Presumably Strange's actions are precisely timed to align whatever factors are necessary for that outcome to succeed. Who's to say it is only one factor?
Are you even reading what you're responding to? This scene happened *in Infinity War*. There is no inconsistency. Gamora found the stone in the past. She didn't tell Thanos then because she *never wanted him to find the stone*. She told Nebula in the present (well, almost present, the scene was a flashback of a few weeks or so) for all the reasons clearly shown in the scene in IW.
This has been answered several times over. Doing so would be potentially costly and attract attention from powerful beings he might not want to attract attention from until he can guarantee that his plan would succeed before anyone could interfere.
The Collector is not a discreet person. Also, Thanos is a very byzantine type who very likely deals in spies and intelligence and his spies would most certainly be keeping an eye on Asgard (some of his potentially most dangerous enemies) and on the Collector (who makes no secret about his desire to have a stone). There's no particular reason to think this information would even be hard to find out (especially since Knowhere is totally lawless - just pay off the right local and you can know pretty much whatever you want).
Contrived writing to justify the ending.
This sounds like an excuse that has yet to be verified.
Let me get this straight. Gamora searched for the Soul Stone and found it years ago, when she was still working for Thanos. She failed to tell Thanos and destroyed the map. And then . . . years later, she told Nebula? Why?
Also, why couldn't Doctor Strange defeat Ebony Maw, who was nothing more than a telekinetic? That's all. A telekinetic. Whereas Strange and Wong were sorcerers, whose magic was powerful enough to affect the likes of Thor and Loki. Huh?
Some people just need every little detail spelled out and spoon-fed to them. Multiple times it seems.
Because she was trying to dissuade Nebula from her ill-advised attempt to kill Thanos.
Ok. No one says you have to believe it, but you're the one demanding extra information outside of the movie (which is always going to be 'unverified' by nature) and this is perfectly reasonable speculation based on the actual portrayal of the characters in the movies.
Yes! As has been said repeatedly.
This has ALREADY been answered. Repeatedly. And it's IN the damn movie. Why do you have to keep asking the same question a million times when it's already been answered. My character can beat up your character. I mean, seriously, it's a superhero movie. Any character can beat any character if the writers want it. Why can Batman beat Superman? And Maw's full abilities are never even clearly defined to begin with, so... who cares?
I have a peeve about him. Maw is just an awesome character, and I’m disappointed in the trite and easy way Stark beats him. He deserves a better death.
Apparently the storytellers were having trouble figuring out a way to off him, and decided to go for the "Indiana Jones shoots the swordsman" approach and move on.
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Yeah, but the swordsman was a nobody, and the moment was hilarious. The way Maw was disposed of is just lame. I wish they had figured out something better.
That's what I stopped bothering ages ago. It's just a waste of effort and full of aggravation.
I thought it was massively refreshing. They'd thrown everything they had at him in NY and he just shrugged it off. More of the same wasn't going to work, but thinking outside the box was brilliant.
It’s not exactly thinking outside of the box. It’s been done in a zillion SF films, including the first two Alien films as pointed out by Parker. That Maw should be so completely unprepared for such a common and obvious form of attack isn’t brilliant, it’s lazy writing.
BTW, Klaue’s “rescue” in BP is just as bad. How can security be that terrible? Nothing but a brick wall separating him from a public street that nobody is paying any attention to?
To be fair they did have cameras in the alley, it's just that Killmonger or one of his lackeys hacked the camera system. I do agree though, I would have expected a CIA safe house to have human eyes on the entire surrounding area, as opposed to just cameras which Hollywood has repeatedly shown us are ridiculously easy to hack.
On Earth. And yet it never happened on Ebony Maw's planet - he's never seen Alien, or Indiana Jones. Diversity is very powerful. What's obvious to one group of people (humans) is not obvious to another group. That's reality.
I hadn't considered this before now, but since Maw is telekinetic, couldn't he simply levitate himself back to the ship, like Leia in The Last Jedi?
I realize much of the collective audience of Infinity War would have groaned had that happened, but in-universe, Maw should have had a dozen seconds (or more) before passing out from anoxia, more than enough time to get his bearings and float back. Now, obviously Stark had began sealing the hull almost immediately after he blew it up and would have likely saw Maw and blasted him a second bunghole the second he got anywhere near the ship. Still, as Maw would have been conscious for a (very) small amount of time after being exposed to space, you'd think he would've tried something.
I realize much of the collective audience of Infinity War would have groaned had that happened, but in-universe, Maw should have had a dozen seconds (or more) before passing out from anoxia, more than enough time to get his bearings and float back. Now, obviously Stark had began sealing the hull almost immediately after he blew it up and would have likely saw Maw and blasted him a second bunghole the second he got anywhere near the ship. Still, as Maw would have been conscious for a (very) small amount of time after being exposed to space, you'd think he would've tried something.