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Series 11 News & Spoilers

That's proably true but it is just a add. I don't think we are suppose to take it all that serious. They clearly don't understand nerds.:) The music was awful though and if you want a song why not go with something by Billie Piper? I never heard her sing but I understand she use to be a popstar in Britain before getting cast as Rose.

Jason


Nah. That would be even more jarring since she was essentially the British version of Britney Spears

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Nah. That would be even more jarring since she was essentially the British version of Britney Spears

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You know Britney Spears would work as well if they played "Toxic" which was in the second episode of the new Who era. Man just play that song over some crying fans and you create the image of "Toxic" fandom mixed together with a reference to one of the earliest shows from the modern era and it basically writes itself.

Jason
 
How did the glass not land on her cutting her all up even though she is standing right underneath it? I expect better science from "Doctor Who."
I always wondered how the Tenth Doctor survived a fall from a greater height that killed the Fourth Doctor. Or how when recent Doctors die, the regeneration energy can blow up the TARDIS, yet not leave a mark on their clothes?

I think there's always been a little magical aspect of Doctor Who that runs not far behind (if not side-by-side) with its science aspects.
 
I always wondered how the Tenth Doctor survived a fall from a greater height that killed the Fourth Doctor. Or how when recent Doctors die, the regeneration energy can blow up the TARDIS, yet not leave a mark on their clothes?

I think there's always been a little magical aspect of Doctor Who that runs not far behind (if not side-by-side) with its science aspects.

Does the doctor wear human clothes or Timelord clothes that look human? I know Tennant Doctor talked about his pocket on his jacket being bigger on the inside than the outside. Perhaps he see's human clothes he likes and simply replicates the clothes with Timelord clothing tech. If it's TImelord made then maybe that is why they don't get ruined.

Jason
 
Does the doctor wear human clothes or Timelord clothes that look human? I know Tennant Doctor talked about his pocket on his jacket being bigger on the inside than the outside. Perhaps he see's human clothes he likes and simply replicates the clothes with Timelord clothing tech. If it's TImelord made then maybe that is why they don't get ruined.
Or it could just be that regeneration energy works strangely. Throughout the entire history of Doctor Who, there's an incredible lot that relies on a suspension of disbelief. We all know that. Sure, one can try to attach something scientific-sounding to explain things away like why the Doctor's clothes don't burn during regeneration, but one could also do the same for why the glass didn't cut the Doctor in the teaser (it might not even have really been glass but an alien lifeform or a clever illusion for all we know).
 
That's proably true but it is just a add. I don't think we are suppose to take it all that serious. They clearly don't understand nerds.:) The music was awful though and if you want a song why not go with something by Billie Piper? I never heard her sing but I understand she use to be a popstar in Britain before getting cast as Rose.

Jason

She was a bit of a one hit wonder. And it was ‘because we want to’ which would possibly really rub people up the wrong way. Largely cos it’s not the greatest song xD
 
IS she even still acting? I mean other than her guest spot on Who were Tennant and Smith meet I don't think I have seen her in anything since that Dominatrix show she was on.

Jason
 
IS she even still acting? I mean other than her guest spot on Who were Tennant and Smith meet I don't think I have seen her in anything since that Dominatrix show she was on.

Jason

She was on Penny Dreadful as Lily, and a Netflix miniseries with Sally Spa - er, Carey Mulligan - called Collateral. Did a Best Actress Award-winning two year stint at the Young Vic in Yerma. She just finished work on a UK film called Eternal Beauty, and is filming a movie she herself is writing/directing called Rare Beasts. Oh, and it was just announced she's pregnant with her third child (with Johnny Lloyd of the Tribes). So yeah, she's kept very busy.
 
She was on Penny Dreadful as Lily, and a Netflix miniseries with Sally Spa - er, Carey Mulligan - called Collateral. Did a Best Actress Award-winning two year stint at the Young Vic in Yerma. She just finished work on a UK film called Eternal Beauty, and is filming a movie she herself is writing/directing called Rare Beasts. Oh, and it was just announced she's pregnant with her third child (with Johnny Lloyd of the Tribes). So yeah, she's kept very busy.

That's pretty cool. I plan to watch Penny Dreadful someday. Those other things sound cool as well. Maybe I will get around to seeing them as well but my to-watch list of shows and movies is so long as it is I don't see how I will get it all watched before I die someday.


Jason
 
You know Britney Spears would work as well if they played "Toxic" which was in the second episode of the new Who era. Man just play that song over some crying fans and you create the image of "Toxic" fandom mixed together with a reference to one of the earliest shows from the modern era and it basically writes itself.

Jason

Just make sure people are "crying" for the right reasons (whoever and whatever those might or actually be) before pop culture becomes ironic or repeating itself from other areas, which it might and it has before... I've read a surfeit of responses on video sites showing the thing and I hadn't even thought of certain viewpoints they brought up. I do think a lot of people ARE looking into the new series too far despite no direct and relevant evidence of any sort, regardless if they're for or against the new show since - surprise, surprise - nobody's seen yet. Just a bunch of hollow, hammy teasers that , for the first time since 2005, say as little about the show as possible. It'd be mighty nice if everyone saw what was made fully, these teasers do seem to be having unintended effects. - for many different reasons, not all of which are the ones we personally want.

What's more bothersome is that the makers of the show have been oddly silent. Must be a big gambit. But he's likely thinking what most of us already are. Or he isn't if he's genuinely being inclusive like how he talked on the ComicCon panel and the episodes will conclusively prove every last concern being proven or disproven there and then, funny how that works. As long is he's not pulling a mindmuck on the audience at the conventions, of course. A big bold change would be to have showrunners who don't lie and spin to the audience, which might be another reason it's a good thing he's not spoken about his series so far. That's supposition. I've read far worse from others and if I agreed with them I would have mentioned them here with source links and quotes. But they don't have a case. Or if the episodes air and they're right, then they did have a case - that's going to be interesting to find out in a few weeks. IMHO, it's still about script quality being the only variable and that's solely on Chibnall and his team, nobody else. I've no problem with anything else and have been bemused as to why some people are.
 
I always wondered how the Tenth Doctor survived a fall from a greater height that killed the Fourth Doctor. Or how when recent Doctors die, the regeneration energy can blow up the TARDIS, yet not leave a mark on their clothes?

I think there's always been a little magical aspect of Doctor Who that runs not far behind (if not side-by-side) with its science aspects.

Throughout the entire history of Doctor Who, there's an incredible lot that relies on a suspension of disbelief.

I've always personally categorized Doctor Who as "science fantasy" in my head as opposed to science fiction. Same with Star Wars and Lost. There's definitely a lot of science-y bits in them, but there's lots of space wizards, smoke monsters and magical regeneration too.
 
I have a question. How has the ratings been with the show the last few years? I guess I don't think to much about ratings anymore with tv but if their has been a decline I wonder if any changes in storytelling aproach might be done because of that even more than creative intent. I just have never seen the show as something that cares about ratings and was content to do it's own thing but I wonder just how much the business side really has a impact on the show and what is and isn't done. It just feels weird to me to think of the show sort of being being treated like any other tv show but is that how it's done?

Jason
 
IS she even still acting? I mean other than her guest spot on Who were Tennant and Smith meet I don't think I have seen her in anything since that Dominatrix show she was on.

Jason
Along with all the credits other people have already pointed out, she also returned to Doctor Who in a box set of audio plays for Big Finish with David Tennant.
 
I have a question. How has the ratings been with the show the last few years?

From what I understand the ratings declined during the Capaldi era. The reasons usually cited are a combination of both The Doctor's dickishness and the show's skiffy writing during the first half of Series 8, plus some fans not wanting to carry on with Clara 2.0 due to never warming to Clara 1.0 (Regardless of how one feels about Clara, I think we can all agree that Capaldi's Clara 2.0 was a much stronger character than Smith's Clara 1.0 was.) and younger viewers not knowing what to make of an older Doctor. Toy sales have also taken a hit due to kids not wanting "Grandpa Doctor" action figures. Also, the rise of streaming/time-shifted viewing probably didn't do them any favors either.

All of which is a damn shame, really. I think the back half of Series 8 through the end of Series 10 is one of the strongest runs in the show's history. Capaldi was one of the strongest actors to ever play the role. And Twelve's arc of going from a complete dick to working on himself to learn empathy and the importance of kindness over everything else was a beautiful character arc. Anyone that jumped ship really missed out. Fuck, I think even Lawrence Miles would have enjoyed it had he still been watching.
 
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I have a question. How has the ratings been with the show the last few years?

To more accurately answer your question, these are the ratings ranges for the various series according to Wikipedia.

Series 1 (6.81-10.81) Eccleston
Series 2 (6.08-9.84) Tennant
Series 3 (6.62-9.35)
Series 4 (6.27-13.31)
Specials (9.75-13.10)
Series 5 (6.44-10.09) Smith
Series 6 (6.72-12.11)
Series 7A (7.57-10.77)
Series 7B (6.47-12.80)
Series 8 (6.71-9.17) Capaldi
Series 9 (5.61-8.28)
Series 10 (4.73-7.92)
 
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As the BBC is funded by a licence fee, not by commercials, subscription or sponsorship, ratings are not as important as BBC management's lofty opinions about what it thinks is good for the viewing public to see. However, the main driving force is to preserve the current funding model for the BBC as an institution.
 
Is their a difference though between BBC and BBC America were I watched the show. I also wonder if the fact that I think the show must place more importance on expanding it's brand in other countries impacts how it does things. I think I recall hearing in the past that the show was putting to much importance on trying to win over a American audience by some fans. We do see these days how tv and movies do put more importance on international audiences than they did in the past but I don't know if that is more of a Hollywood thing or something common everywhere. Also how does it do in China? That seems to be the untapped market everyone is going after these days at least with movies and I know Disney is proably frustrated that "Star Wars" never sales over there for reasons I don't understand.

Jason
 
I know Disney is probably frustrated that "Star Wars" never sales over there for reasons I don't understand.

Jason

A majority of Chinese people didn't grow up with Star Wars movies and don't share the nostalgia that some Americans do.

Han Solo's death in the Force Awakens probably didn't mean much to the audience. They probably pay more attention to the spectacle.

It's like someone who's not a big Star Trek fan VS a diehard Star Trek fan. It just never latched on for some
 
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