This is never mentioned in any of the goofs for this episodes that I have seen,Kahn in sickbay has the doctor by the throat with a scalpel, when mccoy calls for the captain he doesnt mention this, you think the captain should be warned that kahn is potential dangerous.
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Maybe McCoy is putting this event down to Khan being in a state of hysteria due to his long sleep in space?
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Not counting gods and obvious aliens, Kirk only ever received three visitors from ancient Earth IIRC: Khan, Captain Christopher, and Abraham Lincoln.
Kirk viewed all three with admiration of sorts, giving guided tours and all. He fully acknowledged the potential threat posed by Khan and Lincoln, though, finding both too good to be true from the get-go and having plenty of data on the savagery of old Earth even if these people turned out to be who they claimed to be. And he never was under too many illusions about Christopher.
Giving guided tours was Kirk's way with every visitor, friend or foe. Sometimes he used those to tactical advantage, such as in "Conscience of the King". His downright courteous behavior should never be mistaken for him being blue-eyed (that's the other Jim Kirk!), and he probably never needed to be told that his guest was a potential aggressor with some limited skill in bladed weapons but less in combat anatomy.
Timo Saloniemi
Kirk viewed all three with admiration of sorts, giving guided tours and all. He fully acknowledged the potential threat posed by Khan and Lincoln, though, finding both too good to be true from the get-go and having plenty of data on the savagery of old Earth even if these people turned out to be who they claimed to be. And he never was under too many illusions about Christopher.
Giving guided tours was Kirk's way with every visitor, friend or foe. Sometimes he used those to tactical advantage, such as in "Conscience of the King". His downright courteous behavior should never be mistaken for him being blue-eyed (that's the other Jim Kirk!), and he probably never needed to be told that his guest was a potential aggressor with some limited skill in bladed weapons but less in combat anatomy.
Timo Saloniemi
McCoy filled him in during a commercial break. That's also when they go to the bathroom on the show, so we don't see that either.
How often do we see them eating? Every few weeks or so.
When people are in medical distress or just wake from a coma, they do react in uncharacteristic ways. They'll start thrashing about, pulling out their tubes and wires, might even hit a member of the medical staff. Doctors expect this and make a note of it, but I'm sure they don't embarrass their patients with it. McCoy would note it in Khan's file and brief the other staff charged with his care.
Kirk giving tours of his ship is a handy way for him to get a read on them. Noting what they seem interested in, what they don't, etc tells him about their fears, motivations, etc. I would hope that the Enterprise institutes the practice of monitoring the keystrokes of visitors and flagging worrisome searches. Things like "warp core overload", "location of armory" etc.
Kirk giving tours of his ship is a handy way for him to get a read on them. Noting what they seem interested in, what they don't, etc tells him about their fears, motivations, etc. I would hope that the Enterprise institutes the practice of monitoring the keystrokes of visitors and flagging worrisome searches. Things like "warp core overload", "location of armory" etc.
We probably see them drinking more than we see them eating. It's a ship full of lushes.
Kor
I guess my point is that no episode plays out in real time. Unless we really believe only 48 minutes passed between the time Khan's ship was discovered till he was banished to Ceti Alpha V, we shouldn't expect everything that happened in between is shown onscreen.
It's a great ep and would be even if TWOK didn't exist (sniff), but it has a lot of plot problems revolving around Kirk's inexplicable decision to let Khan study the ship and roam around at will EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW he was far stronger than the humans and probably had a shady past. Spock doesn’t come off much better. In fact, the script throws a lot of "hey, just can't trace this Botany Bay boat" fairy dust in our eyes when the discovery of an Earth sleeper ship with genetically enhanced individuals on board was really all that was needed to raise the alarm.
If I were Kirk I wouldn't have assumed that some dude from 200 years ago would be able to gather the technical knowledge to run a ship.. Or even the inclination . After all Kirk was basically giving Khan a new start in life, And to take over the ship he apparently needed a traitor so I'd never assume that I had a traitor in my crew.
While I agree Kirk should have had someone monitoring Khan at all times - like he should have had with all ship's visitors (what else did the redshirts have to do) we wouldn't have had much action in many episodes if we did that.
Same as in Picard's ship.
I think Kirk was just happy to offload Khan's crew onto the nearest Starbase rather than take any responsibility for them! A bit like how in Laurel & Hardy where Ollie saves the life of a woman trying to kill herself in the river and because he saves her she demands that he has to take care of her because he stopped her from dying! It's only later that Kirk realises what a fate awaited the crew at the starbase with a forced re-education programme!
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This is a slight misquote, according to the Star Trek Transcripts site.
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/24.htm
until about about the year 2018.
Of course 2018 is a reference the "Okie" novel series by James Blish (author of the episode adaptations) collectively called Cities in Flight. The story of the discovery of the "spindizzy" that makes FTL interstellar travel possible is told in They Shall Have Stars (1956), also known as Year 2018!
And of course many people will be even more wistful at the thought of the other major discovery made in Year 2018!, the first of the antiagathic (anti death) drugs that give immortality.
Double sigh. Triple sigh.
In one scene 3 klingons walk past a door way ,kirk grabs one with some type of rope and puts it around the klingons neck,the klingon is pretty mild and doesnt even struggle,for a race thats suppose to know for their ruthlessness, its seems a little strange,either way the nitpick is that other two klingons dont seem to notice that their comrade is not behind them anymore, just that the pattern of footsteps has changed would alert them.Also when they got to where they are suppose to going, Im sure they would eventually have to turn around and notice him gone.
Maybe they were being posted to various areas of the Organian city and were going to split up anyway! Plus as we saw with Kras, not all Klingons were as aggressive as they were reported to be! That came later with TNG! 
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