Season 2 Speculation Revived

[Kane_Steel]

Not if Pike believes in her and she has his blessing. Then she's been propped up and Pike's intact.

You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not Pike vs. Burnham. That's not the rivalry. It's Burnham vs. Spock as "siblings" and Burnham vs. Saru for the chain of command.

This is what I think will happen (I don't like it, but just making an educated guess). Pike will have some association with Section 31, and that's how they will fold the Georgiou/31 plot in with the main plot.

I'm expecting a smug scene like this between Burnham and Pike:

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Burnham has already been written as the righteous moral authority against Lorca, Cornwell and Mirror Georgiou. I hope they subvert expectations with Pike, but I doubt it. Unless the new showrunners secretly want Pike as the heroic lead of this series instead of Michael Boredom, unlikely.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

I want Pike to be great again, that's fine.

The problem is you have a clean-cut heroic Captain.... Michael Burnham will be overshadowed and will lose her place as being the most righteous one. They'll have to do something with Pike to make him 'less' than Burnham in some way.

I hope you’re wrong about Pike here. I’d prefer it if Pike could be as amazing as Michael has been described (rather than shown) without him having to be deficient relative to her.

I’d love Pike to be a competent, intelligent captain who inspires both characters and audience alike.

Pike will have some association with Section 31, and that's how they will fold the Georgiou/31 plot in with the main plot.

Since DSC likes twists I’d actually prefer it if Michael became associated with s31 (through Georgiou - and this would explain her relative absence in the rest of the franchise - maybe Spock couldn’t talk about her because she became a secret agent...)

Burnham has already been written as the righteous moral authority against Lorca, Cornwell and Mirror Georgiou. I hope they subvert expectations with Pike, but I doubt it. Unless the new showrunners secretly want Pike as the heroic lead of this series instead of Michael Boredom, unlikely.

I worry that DSC couldn’t produce a scene that was as good as the “24th century Rome” scene between Bashir and Ross.

But as I said above, I’d hope Pike could sit alongside Michael - but I suspect you might be right in that he may be set up to be somehow deficient in relation to her - given how she seems to judge everything in relation to her own outlook (“yes, that is starfleet”, etc.).

Also, Michael Boredom

(Apologies Burnhamites, I find her insufferable. I’ve tried to like her but she gets on my nerves. I hope I’ll like her more in s2).

 

[Lord Garth]

(Apologies Burnhamites, I find her insufferable. I’ve tried to like her but she gets on my nerves. I hope I’ll like her more in s2).

We all know I'm in the Michael Burnham Camp, but... Burnhamites? We need another name. That sounds too much like "Bermanite", of which I wouldn't consider myself one of. My two favorite Star Trek shows are the ones he had nothing to do with.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

We all know I'm in the Michael Burnham Camp, but... Burnhamites? We need another name. That sounds too much like "Bermanite", of which I wouldn't consider myself one of. My two favorite Star Trek shows are the ones he had nothing to do with.

Well I guess “Burnhamphile” is not great. “Burnhamista”? “Burnhamaniac”?

 

[Tuskin38]

How about just Burnham fans

 

[Lord Garth]

“Burnhamaniac”?

Burnhamaniac!

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[Groppler Zorn]

How about just Burnham fans

Logical, to the point, descriptive without being frivolous or light-hearted.

I think Michael herself would approve of “Burnham fans”.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Anything with "Burnham" is likely to get mangled into "Berman"

 

[Lord Garth]

Fine, but our official anthem is not allowed to sound like Dennis McCarthy or Jay Chattaway wallpaper music.

 

[Tuskin38]

But McCarthy made some of the best music.

 

[fireproof78]

Well I guess “Burnhamphile” is not great. “Burnhamista”? “Burnhamaniac”?

I like Mike. (trademark pending).

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Talosians may still be the coolest aliens Trek has ever done. The pulsing veins are such a nice touch.

Pulsing veins are what happens after a canonista views a DISCO episode.

 

[Lord Garth]

But McCarthy made some of the best music.

Yeah, but those are the times when it's not wallpaper. By design, the music that stands out becomes the exception instead of the rule after TNG Season 4.

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Pulsing veins are what happens after a canonista views a DISCO episode.

Shouldn’t ‘canonista’ be “continuitiphiliac”?

Since it’s all canon as it’s been on screen? I like my continuity - even though most of it is Schroedinger’s Trek as it is both valid and not valid continuity-wise (see “the Melbourne principle” where the Melbourne is simultaneously a nebula class ship and an excelsior class ship at the battle of Wolf 359).

 

[Jaimito]

Empress Georgiou will play some part in S2. Michelle Yeoh was saying that during an interview recently for the Crazy Rich Asian movie. Interviewer asked what she is doing next, and she gave the vulcan salute.

 

[middleagednerdgirl]

Empress Georgiou will play some part in S2. Michelle Yeoh was saying that during an interview recently for the Crazy Rich Asian movie. Interviewer asked what she is doing next, and she gave the vulcan salute.

I hope that's true, she was just terrific. I hated almost everything about how Discovery's plot wrapped up, but leaving the ex-Emperor as a total loose end was smart. There are infinite ways she can drop in to be deliciously nasty once or twice a year.

I think we are eventually going to meet Prime Lorca, too, but I doubt it will be this season unless it's just a huge tease at the end.

 

[SeamusShameless]

The Talosians may still be the coolest aliens Trek has ever done. The pulsing veins are such a nice touch.

I've always thought Dame Maggie Smith would be the perfect recast for the Talosian Magistrate.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Logical, to the point, descriptive without being frivolous or light-hearted.

I think Michael herself would approve of “Burnham fans”.

This post deserves more recognition, lol.

“Burnhamaniac”?

Peggy Hill: "The Burnham Maniacs!"

 

[Groppler Zorn]

Tangentially, I’m watching “the wolf inside” rn and two things occur. Firstly, this one seems most like a DS9 episode to me - very reminiscent of the DS9 MU episodes (well, at least “crossover”). Secondly, the scene with Tilly, Saru, and Stamets in the lab is very good. I really like those three characters - they seem the most “Trek” like and tend to do Star Trek-y things - like science and that.

Given the mysterious red matter anomalies Pike mentions in the trailer for s2, I hope that the trifecta mentioned above are in more episodes.

Tilly is cleverer than Michael is stated to be. She figures out Stamets’ connection to the mycelial network and how to help him. She’s more endearing than Michael - for an “outsider” type character who has flaws etc - Tilly is much more relatable. Saru is also a natural for a science-y type problem, given his previous position as a science officer on the shenzhou. And Stamets is sort of a bio engineer so it’d make sense to have him involved in the study of the red swirlies.

Michael hasn’t shown any great aptitude for science things in DSC - she seemed more at home in the MU in command of a starship. Probably because she had all those years as XO of the shenzhou. Hopefully the roles of Tilly, Saru and Stamets will be larger in s2 - if anyone can work out what those red things are, they can.

With that in mind my guess would also be that the red things are an illness in the mycelial network - possibly allowing the other universes from “parallels” to break through.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Tangentially, I’m watching “the wolf inside” rn and two things occur. Firstly, this one seems most like a DS9 episode to me - very reminiscent of the DS9 MU episodes (well, at least “crossover”). Secondly, the scene with Tilly, Saru, and Stamets in the lab is very good. I really like those three characters - they seem the most “Trek” like and tend to do Star Trek-y things - like science and that.

Given the mysterious red matter anomalies Pike mentions in the trailer for s2, I hope that the trifecta mentioned above are in more episodes.

Tilly is cleverer than Michael is stated to be. She figures out Stamets’ connection to the mycelial network and how to help him. She’s more endearing than Michael - for an “outsider” type character who has flaws etc - Tilly is much more relatable. Saru is also a natural for a science-y type problem, given his previous position as a science officer on the shenzhou. And Stamets is sort of a bio engineer so it’d make sense to have him involved in the study of the red swirlies.

Michael hasn’t shown any great aptitude for science things in DSC - she seemed more at home in the MU in command of a starship. Probably because she had all those years as XO of the shenzhou. Hopefully the roles of Tilly, Saru and Stamets will be larger in s2 - if anyone can work out what those red things are, they can.

With that in mind my guess would also be that the red things are an illness in the mycelial network - possibly allowing the other universes from “parallels” to break through.

She did figure out the Tardigrade stuff.