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Is Toxic "Star Wars" Fandom Imploding?
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Vynil records, there's nothing like it.
I didn't see Solo either (or TFA, properly), from what I hear it's hardly that big a loss.
Luke, the Jedi in the original Star Wars trilogy, should not be a reactionary hero.
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Seriously?
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Do people not know what ‘guardians of peace and justice’ entail? They’re defensive! They guard, against attacks. Ergo: Reactive. It’s in the name!
It was about as enjoyable as the honeycomb choc top that I ate whilst watching it.
If your tvs and sound is decent enough, you miss nothing by waiting for Netflix. Imagery-wise, it’s not even as visually striking or just pretty as TFA, R1 and TLJ.
Although come to think of it, I wonder how the darkness problem is going to translate in the home media?
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Seriously?
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Do people not know what ‘guardians of peace and justice’ entail? They’re defensive! They guard, against attacks. Ergo: Reactive. It’s in the name!
It was about as enjoyable as the honeycomb choc top that I ate whilst watching it.
If your tvs and sound is decent enough, you miss nothing by waiting for Netflix. Imagery-wise, it’s not even as visually striking or just pretty as TFA, R1 and TLJ.
Although come to think of it, I wonder how the darkness problem is going to translate in the home media?
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I would say that's your loss. I think Solo is a fun and exciting adventure film.
I thought that was Yoda?
So there is no reason for us to talk to you, got it.
Can we at least have that movie so that we know what it should be?
The Voyage Home? One or two moments of disagreements, otherwise the punishment of the protagonist is his reward.
Edit: The original Star Wars and Jedi were prety feel-good despite there being a lot of conflict and even some trauma.
There's a lot of middle ground between being infallible and making catastrophic mistakes, let alone all of the principal characters making catastrophic mistakes. A Jedi turning against his mentors and the group and destroying it was already featured in the prequels, Luke was portrayed as doing the near-impossible and turning him back to the light, he shouldn't make the same big mistakes and have the same catastrophe as his predecessors did and he especially shouldn't then give up.
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This is true, if you've seen a new hope, then TFA is basically the same thing.
I've seen bits and pieces of it (and the entire begnning), so I can't exactly make a proper comparison, but I've heard that from a number of people. I was going to watch it on Netflix, but then it disappeared, as movies on Netflix tend to do.
Yoda is dead. And I happily accept you ignoring my posts from here on out. Sounds like we probably wouldn't agree on anything anyways.
Red box will have it, for a 1.00 rental.
I don't think that's even a thing in Germany, lol. Maybe it'll return to Netflix someday and then I'll watch it, but I don't feel like paying mones specifically for it.
I never liked Solo. The Solo movie changed that
He shouldn't? Why not? Why is that a rule that he should not?
People handle failure in different ways, and Luke not only had a brief moment of reacting to darkness, but it reflected a flaw in the Jedi teachings in terms of reacting to the Dark Side. Luke isn't flawless and he still is capable of making a mistake that he feels is impossible to recover from. He repeats the Jedi teachings and feels the Jedi order is capable of repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Fear of failure can have long reaching impact.
Why not?
I don't think there's a huge contingent of people expecting Luke to be the hero of the movie just a hero. We expect Rey to the be the lead other wise the first movie int he trilogy would be pointless but we don't expect him to be sat sulking sucking on space cow nipples.
Leia faced a backlash for being the daughter of Darth in the new lore. Why not have Luke face the same thing? Maybe it wasn't evil sith who burned down the school but frightened people who remember the propaganda against the jedi and are clearly linking that up with the new Jedi order coming from Skywalker loins? Maybe Luke was guarding something and new that it made him a target. Heck maybe Luke had his head up his ass and figured the answer to all this would be in some ancient jedi scrolls and was looking for them. Rey could come along and tell him to live in the present instead of the past. He's still a good guy trying to do what's right but is wrong in the way he is going about it.
Because your following up a fairy tale and there are expectations to that. Bilbo was succumbing to the ring and nobody expected him to take it to mount doom and no fans were saying he should have done. They enjoyed seeing their hero relinquish the ring and pass on into the west. Why not have Luke do the same thing? Have your Gandalf come and say, you've done your bit Luke now it's time to let someone else carry the burden of "the force", "being the hero", "etc".
Apart from the obvious comeback that Bilbo was effectively also a grumpy recluse who was failing when we met him in LOTR
, does it not occur that this argument basically boils down to "because it doesn't follow the formula". Doesn't that seem just a little bit arbitrarily restrictive?
Bilbo was living his life. He was with friends and family. The ring was wearing on him but he was still going. He hadn't become Gollum. Plus when asked to give up the ring he did so. Yes he was reluctant and tried to weasel out of it but he did it, there and then. Not over the course of the first book or even the entire chapter. He remained Bilbo. Luke stopped being Luke for let's say ten years or so while he sat and sulked after trying to murder his nephew for having bad dreams.Apart from the obvious comeback that Bilbo was effectively also a grumpy recluse who was failing when we met him in LOTR
There are some movies that people watch to be challanged and there are some that we don't. You can push the boundaries but if you break them then some people are going to question whay they bothered with this in the first place. If you want to make Blade Runner or something then go make it. I love Blade runner. But that it's built on the back of a fairy tale. Frozen as an example subverted the cliches by having the love needed to break the spell be between two sisters instead of the, perhaps, expected typical romantical version. That's bending the "rules". Last Jedi broke the rules and some people don't want that out of Buck Rogers fan fic.