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TNG Returns!

Or maybe they want to give Trekkies more reasons to stick around when DISCO isn't airing. As opposed to only signing up long enough to watch DISCO and then cancelling their subscriptions until the next season comes along. (Which, I confess, is what I've been doing.)

My point being is that it's probably a mistake to see this as anti-DISCO thing. What it actually looks like is that DISCO is doing well enough for CBS.AA that they want to expand on their TREK programming, and that the Picard show and the one-shots are intended to feel the gaps between DISCO's seasons.

Meanwhile, on other fronts, I watched the footage from Las Vegas and, boy, does Stewart look good for a man his age. He seems to be in great shape!


Most of the people working on The Picard Show come from Discovery, I don't think they're going to say "Right, let's make a show for people who don't like what we're doing!"

But since arguably Enterprise apart from comics, Online and books the focus has been TOS so it's nice that they're breaking that cycle, i wonder how they'll approach the aesthetic?
 
Most of the people working on The Picard Show come from Discovery, I don't think they're going to say "Right, let's make a show for people who don't like what we're doing!"

But since arguably Enterprise apart from comics, Online and books the focus has been TOS so it's nice that they're breaking that cycle, i wonder how they'll approach the aesthetic?

I wonder what the actual role, or job duties, will be there for Picard in this new series? I doubt seriously they are going to just throw the old crew back together on the Enterprise again. I'm sure they are already story-boarding this, or at least have a general direction they want to go in, because without that I doubt Stewart would be coming back without knowing the direction the show will be heading.
 
The TNG crew got a proper send off in Nemesis. The crew had one last adventure together, then they all moved on. The story wasn't any less shitty than Star Trek 6 (yes, that movie sucked too), it's just that the general audience didn't care about the TNG crew like they did the original. And that's saying something considering that TNG was a much, much bigger hit in first run. And THAT is the real pisser behind all this "proper send off" noise that we've been hearing for twenty years now. That despite greater popularity in first run, despite breaking records in syndication, despite critical acclaim, general audiences didn't really care about them going away. Both Nemesis and Star Trek 6 were mostly shit with a few good moments in them. Both films had good endings, the only difference being that Star Trek 6 ended with the crew sailing into the sunset and into legend. Kirk and crew were mythical, and we could imagine them sailing the stars forever and having endless adventures.

The TNG crew was never legendary in that kind of way. The TNG crew was the more down to Earth crew, the one that moved on from the Enterprise, that went on to other things and chapters in their lives and more believably so. And the end of Nemesis reflected that. Life went on like life does. One friend died. Others went their own way to be replaced by new crew mates who in time would become old friends to those who stayed behind on the Enterprise. So no, they didn't get their "sailing into the sunset and myth" moment, but they had the more believable ending and it was just fine.

And god I hope this Picard show is just that. Aside from him, Burton and Spiner, I've never been too impressed with the rest of the actors, I liked them enough back in the day, but have zero interest in seeing them now. Based on Stewarts words, this doesn't appear to be a nostalgic reunion show and thank god for that. He said that it would be about Picard in the next chapter of his life and would deal with his experiences leading up to that. He's not still sailing with the Enterprise crew, and those folks are the people he used to work with at a job he had twenty years ago. Between now and then, he's met scads of new people, made new friends, maybe married, who knows. I'm more interested in seeing Picard as a regular person in a more grounded setting. Not on a ship, or station. Not part of Starfleet. Just an elder statesman who maybe does some teaching, or some archaeology, or working on his memoirs, in the later days of his life.

We need fresh new windows into this world, and we've already got a "traditional" Trek for 2018 in DSC. I'm not interested in seeing yet another crew on another spaceship, or a lame ass "fall of the Federation" thing. So hopefully this series or mini-series (whatever it is) will give us a fresh insight into the world of the Federation.

Disagree with every single point you made.
 
I don't think they're going to say "Right, let's make a show for people who don't like what we're doing!"

Which is why people should be worried...very worried.

The only person behind the camera I have any faith in is Stewart (as an Executive Producer).
 
there's Jean-Luc Picard of TNG and Generations and then there's Jean-McClane Picard of First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis.
Considering the age of the character and the very healthy, youthful looking actor I doubt that is going to be the case. Since this is a longer running TV show I imagine there is less of that needed also. However I do see Stewart having a large say as to what his character does. I wonder if he sees this as his 'Logan'. I feel even at this stage Stewart has matured even more as an actor and I'm terribly excited to see where he takes the role.
 
Disagree with every single point you made.

I give a shit....why?

Which is why people should be worried...very worried.

The only person behind the camera I have any faith in is Stewart (as an Executive Producer).

Stewarts own words:
"He may not, and I stress may not, be a captain anymore. He may not be the Jean-Luc that you recognize and know so well. It may be a very different individual. Someone who has been changed by his experiences. Twenty years will have passed, which is more or less exactly the time between the very last movie – Nemesis – and today.

It will be, I promise you, I guarantee it, something VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. (emphasis mine). It will come to you with the same passion, and determination and love of the material and love of our followers and our fans, exactly as we had it before."

Anyone thinking they're just going to get TNG:20 years later is in for a shock. You can't go home again. The characters have moved on, their Enterprise days long behind them. We've already seen a future TNG crew reunite to help Jean-Luc Picard one last time in "All Good Things" so we're not going to be seeing a repeat of that.
 
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It'll be nearly the 25th century, with a very aging Picard. I can't see them wanting this to be a long series either, more like a mini-series, so reduced budget.

That all screams lowkey, filler show with far more focus on Picard than the overall Federation.
 
Which is why people should be worried...very worried.

The only person behind the camera I have any faith in is Stewart (as an Executive Producer).

Indeed.

My prediction, per Stewart's comments: Picard will no longer be in Starfleet; in fact, he's not been seen for some time, perhaps a decade. Explaining why he left and where he's been will be narrative thrust of the new series. The fun approach to a story like this would be to have the TNG bridge crew reassembling to find Picard because the Federation needs his expertise or is concerned that someone with his knowledge and experience is off the grid.

Since the creative team behind STD is more interested in soap operatic melodrama and extremist political stances, we'll see a story that's needlessly dark and joyless. Picard's story will somehow reflect current events and will be yet more yammering by the STD people about Trump. I didn't vote for the man, but there are bigger things happening in our world today outside of who is POTUS. Stewart's comments about this being "very different" from TNG and his own comments on Trump lead me to believe he's returning to make some statement through Picard.
 
"he's not been seen for some time, perhaps a decade."

Hmm. Sounds familiar. Should he be approached by some ensign who hands him his old jumpsuit and he proceeds to throw it over his shoulder? Will he also be drinking oddly colored milk?
 
Lots of thoughts.

First off: I am so excited!

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Second, I don't think this will be a full blown TNG reunion, nor should it be, I do think there will be opportinities for other ST characters to appear. Or at least get mentioned. Did Picard marry Beverly? What happened with B4? Are Troi & Riker still together? Geordi? Worf? Wesley? Guinan? Etc.

Third, I do feel Nemesis/ST2009 was not a fitting ending for the 24th century era. This show gives them a chance to do that properly.

Lastly, I do think it will be more idealistic/better angels of our nature Trek instead of action Trek. Particularly after reading Stewart's comments about dark times and Trek being inspirational. Picard as ethical and moral beacon instead of action hero will be the heart of the show.
 
"he's not been seen for some time, perhaps a decade."

Hmm. Sounds familiar. Should he be approached by some ensign who hands him his old jumpsuit and he proceeds to throw it over his shoulder? Will he also be drinking oddly colored milk?

LOL! It does sound familiar because we already saw something similar in "Unification".

but there are bigger things happening in our world today outside of who is POTUS.

Yeah....cuz that's what all the anger towards Trump is. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
I’m curious if they will ignore the Irrimotic Syndrome or use it.

I think it would be great if the premise of the show was, Picard had accepted his illness and resigned to slowly losing his mind, but then they come out with a cure, and now suddenly he has possibly decades of healthy years in front of them again and no idea what to do with them. A second chance to start another life, have a family.
I’m curious if they will ignore the Irrimotic Syndrome or use it.

I think it would be great if the premise of the show was, Picard had accepted his illness and resigned to slowly losing his mind, but then they come out with a cure, and now suddenly he has possibly decades of healthy years in front of them again and no idea what to do with them. A second chance to start another life, have a family.
I’m curious if they will ignore the Irrimotic Syndrome or use it.

I think it would be great if the premise of the show was, Picard had accepted his illness and resigned to slowly losing his mind, but then they come out with a cure, and now suddenly he has possibly decades of healthy years in front of them again and no idea what to do with them. A second chance to start another life, have a family.


I could very easy see him dealing with the disease. Mostly because I recall Stewart talking about health issues awhile back. One thing we got to consider is this a show that I suspect will be very Picard centric and also something that must have been done to appeal to Stewart as a actor and as a person and dealing with health issue's and old age I think would be something that might appeal to that. Let's not forget he returned as Xavier in "Logan" to play a old and sick version of the character and to basically die. I wonder if we might be seeing something similiar. That's why I could see almost all the old TNG characters be dead and thus he is very much alone in the world now since he never started a familiar. I can also see it as having something to say about Trump or modern politics because he has spoke his mind about Trump and let's not forget he is now a American citizen and thus is immigrant. Also "Blunt Talk" was about tv show host that talked politics.

Jason
 
I would be surprised if they didn’t get him aboard the Enterprise E again for an episode or two.
But it’s a strange place to him, because it has been refitted a couple of times and the crew is entirely new.
Would be a bit of a retread of Scotty on the D, but why not?
Ample ways to make it different enough.
I just hope they will not canonize the Enterprise-F aka the space whale from Star Trek Online.
 
Some TNG, DS9, VOY appearances I'm sure. New characters in there as well. If its a hit, and some of the newer characters do well, Im sure we would see more late 24th century prime stories to come, no matter what the plan for the Picard show is initially. I cant see him doing a 7 season show at this point. Hes not apparently aging with quite the robustness of Shatner. But more will be spun off from it, if it does well enough. After 3 straight prequels over the last 17 years, I wouldn't mind that.
 
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