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24th century's view of/references to the 23rd century

Laura Cynthia Chambers

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Most of these are copied from my answers to this post: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/did...too-insulting-condescending-about-tos.294716/

I've added a few new ones, though.

Twenty third century
The Outrageous Okona - Stano Riga, who "specialised in jokes about quantum mathematics."
Violations - Iresine Syndrome, first diagnosed that century
If Wishes Were Horses - subspace rupture in the Hanoli System in the mid twenty third century.
Trials and Tribble-ations - Dax likes the 23rd century designs of tricorders, etc; by the end of the 23rd century, tribbles had become extinct from their homeworld
Flashback - Hikaru Sulu doesn't resemble his Starfleet HQ portrait because "holographic imaging resolution was less accurate."
Cause and Effect - Bateson thinks it's still 2278.


"Hundred years ago" from the 24th century (so, the 23rd)

Pen Pals - Selcundi Drema's fifth planet shattered within the last 150 years (2365-150=2215)
The Vengeance Factor - Gatherers hadn't yet split off from Marouk's culture - violent clan warfare - only the Gatherers eventually remained that way - others overcame (2366-100=2266)
A Man Alone - Dax has been trying to master the Altonian brain teaser for 140 years or so. (2369-140=2238)
Equilibrium - Jadzia has a vision of members of the Trill Symbiosis commission, wearing uniforms from over a hundred years ago (2371-100+=2271, at least)
Melora- 150 years ago, the last time Dax made a relationship work.
Broken Link - Klingons relinquished control of the Archanis IV a hundred years ago. (2372-100=2272)
The Omega Directive - Omega particle first synthesized over a hundred years ago by Ketteract (portrayed in the TOS novel Cloak) (2374-100+=2274, at least)
Think Tank - Bevvox founds the think tank over a hundred years ago (in the Delta Quadrant, though, although Bevvox did so after"wandering the galaxy on his own for a few millennia.") (2375-100+=2275+, at least)
Life Line - This exchange between The Doctor and Troi -

DOCTOR: You won't even look at my research. From the moment I arrived, you've berated me, treated me like an antique. Well, let me tell you something. Antique or not, I took a huge risk coming here. I had to plead with my Captain, leave my ship without a surgeon.
TROI: Doctor. Imagine that your programme was seriously damaged, and the only person who could repair you was an engineer from, say, a hundred years ago. Would you feel comfortable with that?

DOCTOR: If he were skilled, intelligent, creative.
TROI: Honestly, Doctor? A hundred years ago?

DOCTOR: Well, I suppose it would give me pause.
Though that says more about tech advancement than personal opinions.
Muse - a theater on Kelis' planet used to be a temple for sacrificing persons on (2376-100=2276) (Delta Quadrant)
Prophecy - Kohlar's grandfather was part of a Klingon sect looking for the Kuvagh'magh (2377-100=2277)
KOHLAR: More than a hundred years ago, my great-grandfather was part of a sect which believed the Empire had lost its way. They discovered a sacred text. It told them to embark on a journey to a distant region of the galaxy.
Friendship One -
contact lost 130 years ago (2378-130=2248)

 
Flashback - Hikaru Sulu doesn't resemble his Starfleet HQ portrait because "holographic imaging resolution was less accurate."

Non-TAS proof right there that some form of holo-technology existed in the 23rd Century even if it wasn't called a holodeck. Both of these add up to why I have no problem with a proto-holodeck in DSC.
 
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Janeway said in Flashback I believe that the 23rd century was "like the Wild West" and that Kirk and Sulu would be kicked out of Starfleet if they were in it in their day(the 24th century).
 
I was just collecting examples of how the 23rd century was referenced in the 24th - what they thought of it, what happened other than what we know from previous/current series.

Non-TAS proof right there that some form of holo-technology existed in the 23rd Century even if it wasn't called a holodeck. Both of these add up to why I have no problem with a proto-holodeck in DSC.

Holo-photography, anyway. Whether it was a 3D or 2D, who knows?
 
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