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Is that across all territories? Amazon UK isn't giving a date.
Yeah UK dates are often different than US for home release. Amazon UK have the official artwork up now at least, that usually means the release date won't be too far off.

The 4k releases of Avengers 1 & 2 are down for September 3rd though. So maybe could be that too if they wanna do a boxset of all 3
 
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blu-ray.com has it down for September 3

The 4K versions of The Avengers and Age of Ultron come out the same day as Infinity War in the US so i'd imagine that they're being released in the UK the same day as well. so the Sept. 3rd date make sense.
 
Yeah UK dates are often different than US for home release

I am more than aware of that.

blu-ray.com has it down for September 3

The 4K versions of The Avengers and Age of Ultron come out the same day as Infinity War in the US so i'd imagine that they're being released in the UK the same day as well. so the Sept. 3rd date make sense.

Thanks and that would make sense to a degree.
 
Why did you ask "Is that across all territories?" then.

Given the film was released within a 36 hour window across most of the globe, there was a possibility that the home media release would be similarly released.
 
How did Doctor Strange observe over 14 million futures without visibly aging? If he rewinds himself after each future, like he did when facing Dormammu, wouldn’t he lose his memory of what he had seen?
 
How did Doctor Strange observe over 14 million futures without visibly aging? If he rewinds himself after each future, like he did when facing Dormammu, wouldn’t he lose his memory of what he had seen?

my guess is he used his astral form to view the futures , not his physical body.
 
my guess is he used his astral form to view the futures , not his physical body.
Interesting hypothesis.

Another one is that he took a page from the Ancient One’s playbook and drew power from the dark dimension to prevent aging.
 
If he took an average of 10 seconds per option, he’d have aged about 4.5 years. Hardly time to shrivel.
 
How did Doctor Strange observe over 14 million futures without visibly aging? If he rewinds himself after each future, like he did when facing Dormammu, wouldn’t he lose his memory of what he had seen?
Why would he lose his memory what he'd seen? Neither Strange nor Dormammu seem to lose any memories during that time loop. If they had lost their memories, they would still be there infinitely in that loop.
 
Why would he lose his memory what he'd seen? Neither Strange nor Dormammu seem to lose any memories during that time loop. If they had lost their memories, they would still be there infinitely in that loop.
Dormammu doesn’t lose any memories because he’s “beyond time.” It’s Kaecilius mentioning this fact about Dormammu that leads to Strange coming up with his plan.

And most people I’ve discussed it with believe that Strange does lose his memory after each loop, which is essential to it working. Why can’t Dormammu simply torture Strange until he breaks? Because from Strange’s perspective, he’s never been facing Dormammu for more than a few minutes, so as long as he has the willpower to endure a few minutes of torture, Dormammu can’t break him.

Strange losing his memory with each loop also explains why he begins every loop with the exact same line. When he starts the loop, he doesn’t know whether it’s the first, the hundredth, or the millionth, so naturally he starts it the exact same way. It’s only Dormammu’s different reactions that cause the iterations to play out differently from each other.
 
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Dormammu doesn’t lose any memories because he’s “beyond time.” It’s Kaecilius mentioning this fact about Dormammu that leads to Strange coming up with his plan.

And most people I’ve discussed it with believe that Strange does lose his memory after each loop, which is essential to it working. Why can’t Dormammu simply torture Strange until he breaks?

Because he doesn't understand what's happening with the time loop and just thinks killing Strange will end things. There's nothing that indicates Strange forgot everything. Otherwise he wouldn't know if his plan was working.
 
Because he doesn't understand what's happening with the time loop and just thinks killing Strange will end things.
He thinks that the first couple of times through the loop. He ultimately realizes that it doesn’t work that way, which is why he’s forced to make a deal to end things.

There's nothing that indicates Strange forgot everything.
I think there is, as I outlined in my previous post. And judging by my discussions with other fans and the Headscratchers page on TV Tropes, I’m not alone.

Otherwise he wouldn't know if his plan was working.
He knows there are only two ways it can play out. Either Dormammu eventually makes a deal, or the two of them are stuck in the time loop for all eternity — with only Dormammu perceiving it that way, making Dormammu much more desperate to break out than Strange.

Eventually Dormammu has to realize what’s happening, and there’s no reason he would choose to remain trapped in this purgatory forever. Eventually he has to make a deal. And even if he doesn’t, that means Strange traps Dormammu in eternal torment and saves Earth at the cost of the rest of his own life, a trade he is completely willing to make.

If he took an average of 10 seconds per option, he’d have aged about 4.5 years. Hardly time to shrivel.
10 seconds? Imagine watching Infinity War (or any of 14 million other moves) projected at 24,000 FPS so that the whole movie takes a few seconds. Would you be able to tell me what happened in that movie?

Strange has to watch a lot of events play out in each of these futures. 10 seconds isn’t going to do it.
 
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Come to think of it, @Kytee’s hypothesis about Strange using his astral body makes a lot of sense. In that form, you can change the speed of your perceptions, like the Ancient One did while she was on the operating table. She and Strange had a nice long conversation, while only a few seconds elapsed and Strange’s physical body presumably aged only a few seconds. In that mode, where you can actually see a lighting bolt play out, he could easily watch that 24,000 FPS projection and see what’s happening.
 
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