CVN-80 and the wall of Enterprises
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I like the fact that they are recycling some of the steel from CVN-65 to incorporate into CVN-80.
uss germania?
That would be most likely, given the colorful history of that vessel (to wit, part of the burning of the captured USS Philadelphia at Tripoli, and the battle with "His Britannic Majesty's Brig" Boxer. Among other actions)
Imperium Romanum Sacrum = Holy Roman Empire
It was my way of pointing out that IRS could represent something other than US Revenue and Customs.
dJE
'Imperial Romulan Warbird' was said out loud in TNG 'Face of the Enemy'.
That was the only time it was said. I don't think they ever said just 'IRW'
A lot of the footage of it on the runway, has a large needle-like protrusion on the nose, for its ALT tests, the only times it flew. And it also I think at least in some of those flights had the aeroshell on the back, neither of which would've looked quite right to audiences.This is all cool as hell.
With all of the footage of Enterprise available, why did they find the need to alter footage of one of the others?
That's what I was going to say:
For the same reasons we can tell that isn't Enterprise, Enterprise doesn't look like a flyable shuttle, and of the flyable ones only looked like Columbia.
So if the idea is that the name Enterprise got used for a shuttle, it should probably look like the later ones.
I was surprised by the comment that Enterprise's weight issue was due to extra equipment for its testing use. I guess I had always assumed that the post-Columbia shuttles were lighter because we had improved the design.
For the same reasons we can tell that isn't Enterprise, Enterprise doesn't look like a flyable shuttle, and of the flyable ones only looked like Columbia.
So if the idea is that the name Enterprise got used for a shuttle, it should probably look like the later ones.
I was surprised by the comment that Enterprise's weight issue was due to extra equipment for its testing use. I guess I had always assumed that the post-Columbia shuttles were lighter because we had improved the design.
There werent many changes made in the design, but some things (Id have to check old books) were not added like the heavy airlock equipment Columbia had. Also the ejection seat equipment Columbia (and presumably Enterprise) had was not added.
Wikipedia on why Enterprise never went to space:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Enterprise#Planned_preparations_for_spaceflight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Enterprise#Planned_preparations_for_spaceflight
True, which makes the MA insistence all the more annoying.
But while the one dialogue bit is fine and well, the usage is more illogically found in Okudagrams: the casualty list our DS9 heroes maintain lists all Romulan vessels as IRW. Technically, this may be correct and all the lost or hurt IR ships may be of the W category, but it is still conceptually different from the modern/fictional HMS thing and similar to the old/historical HM(insert ship type letter) thing.
...At least for a certain value of S. Trek has its odd ideas about what counts as "starship", so perhaps all the USS vessels out there are just a fraction of the general US vessel arsenal of Starfleet, namely the Starship fraction? (Although we need to add the runabouts into the Skiff fraction or whatever, too.)
Oh, well. Thankfully, we can't really read the casualty chart on screen. Not the way we can study the assorted ship images on the various walls and worry about ship lineages, presences and absences.
Timo Saloniemi
According to current theory, this would all depend on whether the Romulans had dinosaurs and birds.
According to current theory, this would all depend on whether the Romulans had dinosaurs and birds.
The Rihansu ("Romulans") where a separatist terrorist movement on Vulcan before being exiled. Taking on their name from the phrase 'those that march beneath the raptors wing', a large bird I can't remember the appearance of.
Vulcan at least must have had dinosaur like creatures in it's distant past that became desert dwelling scavangers or birds of prey. Some the Rihansu tamed or took the symbol of anyway for the Star Empire later.
But I think we do see flocks of more seagull like birds fly over the capital in Nemesis, on their own world.
In a universe where fish and lizard lookalikes can and will become humanoid bipeds, dinosaur ancestry of bird lookalikes need not be assumed...
But only some Klingon ships are. And the differences in Romulan vessel size and apparent mission are much greater than the differences that set Warbirds, Raptors and Birds of Prey apart.
Timo Saloniemi
But only some Klingon ships are. And the differences in Romulan vessel size and apparent mission are much greater than the differences that set Warbirds, Raptors and Birds of Prey apart.
Timo Saloniemi
No. Lots of events before 1966 are not canon in Star Trek because some, though not all, of the historical references to events prior to 1966 in various episodes of TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, & the movies are inaccurate in our timeline. If they are accurate in the timeline of Star Trek - and some are said by such precise entities as Spock, Data, and various computers -.Star Trek must happen in an alternate universe to ours.
Since Star Trek happens in an alternate universe to ours where various historical events were different, any assumption that a particular historical event in our universe - before or after 1966 - also happens in the alternate universe of Star Trek is a false assumption. Some events do happen the same in both universes, but the casual assumption that any particular historical event from our history happened in the Star Trek universe is a baseless assumption.
But Spock also said that the Eugenics Wars in the 1990s were the last world war on Earth. Therefore the Eugenics wars in the 1990s and the Third World War in the 2050s must be the same conflict. Therefore, since Spock and Data don't make mistakes, they must have been using different official Earth calendars which have their first years about 60 years apart. Therefore, Star Trek characters sometimes use different Earth calendars to date events in Earth history.
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I don't get the bit about Colonel Klink.
The Holy Roman Empire claimed to be a continuation of the Roman Empire, and thus the rightful government of everywhere and everyone. Which was somewhat more important than being the government of Germany, no matter how large Germany was.
Actually the name was Sacrum Romanum Imperium, not Imperium Romanum Sacrum, so the initials would be SRI and not IRS.
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