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Rebellion in the DSC MU

Groppler Zorn

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In “mirror mirror” when Kirk replays his counterpart’s service record, there is a mention of a rebellion that Kirk put down.

There are also rebels in Enterprise in “mirror darkly” made up of familiar local species (Vulcans, andorians, etc.) and this idea is carried over into DSC where we see a Voq who is apparently more honourable than his prime universe counterpart. At the very least he seems more reasonable.

Assuming that this “rebellion” gains strength following Emperor Spock’s reforms (described in “crossover”), and eventually overthrows the Terran empire, what happens to the seemingly noble and reasonable council of leaders seen in the DSC episode where we see Mirror Sarek and mirror Voq? These characters seem very Star Warsian as rebels - that is, they have been established as “the good guys” in opposition to the evil Terran empire. How do the good guys go from this state in DSC to the hedonistic, sadistic, and ultimate parallel of the Terran empire that we see in DS9?

Granted that’s a century after DSC, but I didn’t get the sense that mirror Voq wanted to enslave the Terrans in DSC and he didn’t seem to have the same loathing for them as Kira did in DS9.

Maybe the 10 years following DSC were particularly barbaric? Or the rebels were all killed because “terror must be maintained for the empire to survive”? Or are the “rebels” simply poorly characterised in DSC as they may have been yet another reference to Enterprise? Should they have been similarly nasty relative to the terrans? I tend to believe the latter, but I’ve been wrong before.

Ultimately, as rebellion seems to be a common theme in the MU, how do we think the non Terran rebels went from being like Voq and Sarek to like the conquerors we saw in DS9 (or like in the MU novel where mirror Gorkon defeats emperor Spock)?
 
I don't think all the rebellions in the MU ar really connected in any way. I see T'Kuvma's group as one particular band of rebels that is distinct from the rebels that ultimately defeated the Empire.
 
I don't think all the rebellions in the MU ar really connected in any way. I see T'Kuvma's group as one particular band of rebels that is distinct from the rebels that ultimately defeated the Empire.
That’s probably true considering the extent of the empire and the disorganisation of the rebels - didn’t think about it like that :)
 
And in general, oppressed peoples will turn around and oppress people in a pretty awful cycle.
That gives Star Wars a kind of bleak outlook overall doesn’t it? Yay the rebels won - but oh no they’re now oppressing people and have become the new empire...

Given that dsc has established that the Klingon empire was all but wiped out in the Terran universe (contradicting some of beta canon but not all of it) I wonder what characters like Gorkon are up to in DSC? Is he to lead the final rebellion that overthrows Spock as has been suggested? Or might Voq have a bigger part to play? Does the DSC mirror universe align with what we eventually see on DS9? I’d actually like to see that story.

On another note - I feel as though the MU as it exists now has been influenced by Star Wars somewhat: evil empire with superweapon full of over the top and dramatic villains against noble band of rag tag rebels who eventually succeed. “Mirror mirror” obviously predates Star Wars and I don’t think it’s reflected in the way the empire is depicted in TOS.

I’d actually love to see a spinoff where the fall of the Terran empire is depicted... it would serve as a nice parallel to DSC (and contain several of the same characters - perhaps giving some of the side characters more to do?)
 
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