Logan's Run got PG for Jenny Agutter stripping down because she turned her back before dropping the dress past her waist. Lower frontal was a major cutoff point for nudity for a very long time. I can think of only two films that got away with a PG that had it, and one of those was obscure.
What if TMP had been R-rated ?
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Some of us are still around.
So, what say you? Were Persis to have bared all for our entertainment in TMP, would an "R" rating have been in order?
Nah. I saw Logan's Run before that, and it was no big deal.
One can only assume that Ilia must've really loved anal ...
You asked for it...
Considering your avatar, the fact that the two are related, and the expression on Matt's face....
Good show....figuratively speaking, of course.
Some of us are still around.
Amen! We're not all dead yet. It's not like we're talking BIRTH OF A NATION or something.
Reminds me of this retrospective on TMP that EW.com published a while back, which was filled with sentences along the lines of "It's impossible to imagine now what audiences made of the movie back in 1979."
Um. You don't have to imagine it. You could just ask us.
I swear, they were talking about TMP as though it was the cinematic equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I saw TMP in the theater on Saturday, December 8, 1979.
The first two movies that I saw in the theater were in 1971, when I was 4.
Big Jake
Windwalker
I remember them both very clearly. Right down to the un-padded old wooden seats in the tiny old theater.
The problem? You look up Windwalker and it says 1981.
Now, I came back to this thread after just being at this one:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/fanfic-idea-question.294836/
Mormonism.
Next, I went here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windwalker_(film)
Click on the author and it goes here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine_Yorgason
Mormonism.
By 1981, the theater where I saw those two movies back in 1971 was showing nothing but XXX movies. You would see the ads in the newspapers and be dismayed that they didn't bring back regular films and get rid of that crap.
I know that I saw Windwalker in 1971 when I was 4. Not in 1981 when I was 14. That is completely ridiculous. TMP was the second film that I saw in a larger theater. The first was 'A Bridge Too Far' in 1976. You look that up and it says 1977.
My memory has been tested several times recently and found to be much better than average.
The game's afoot. Something is going on. Call it The Mandela Effect or whatever, things have been changing.
I find it all quite interesting, considering the plot of Windwalker.
Maybe I should stand my ground about Valeris being in early scripts of TWOK. Maybe the way things were before, she was.
The first two movies that I saw in the theater were in 1971, when I was 4.
Big Jake
Windwalker
I remember them both very clearly. Right down to the un-padded old wooden seats in the tiny old theater.
The problem? You look up Windwalker and it says 1981.
Now, I came back to this thread after just being at this one:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/fanfic-idea-question.294836/
Mormonism.
Next, I went here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windwalker_(film)
Click on the author and it goes here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine_Yorgason
Mormonism.
By 1981, the theater where I saw those two movies back in 1971 was showing nothing but XXX movies. You would see the ads in the newspapers and be dismayed that they didn't bring back regular films and get rid of that crap.
I know that I saw Windwalker in 1971 when I was 4. Not in 1981 when I was 14. That is completely ridiculous. TMP was the second film that I saw in a larger theater. The first was 'A Bridge Too Far' in 1976. You look that up and it says 1977.
My memory has been tested several times recently and found to be much better than average.
The game's afoot. Something is going on. Call it The Mandela Effect or whatever, things have been changing.
I find it all quite interesting, considering the plot of Windwalker.
Maybe I should stand my ground about Valeris being in early scripts of TWOK. Maybe the way things were before, she was.
By 1981, I was only watching sci-fi in theaters. Not any other genre.
Well, then, you have a mystery for your own memory, but the film clearly wasn't out in 1971.
- The novelist hadn't written the story yet
- The director hadn't made his first feature yet
- The credited screenwriter didn't have his first writing credit until 1974
- The actress who played Tashina is only 55, which would have made her 8 in 1971
- The actor who played Horse That Follows was born in 1969
- A 2 Jul 1980 Variety news item reported that picture experienced a layer of ash deposited in the snow-covered Uinta Mountains of northeastern Utah, courtesy of Mount St. Helens.
- The lobby cards I found have the text "© WINDWALKER PRODUCTIONS 1980"
- The composer's first motion picture score credit is The First Vision (1976)
- The NY Times review of the film was published March 13, 1981, on Page C00012 of the National edition
- AND the film's score was submitted to the Academy for Oscar consideration for best score of 1980
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^ I grew up in Orem Utah and remember the hubbub around Windwalker, which was considered a hometown production. There was a premiere event at the local SCERA theater (which had recently broken the PG barrier with The Black Hole). It was also around the time a movie called Take Down was shot locally, when a schoolmate was beside himself to report that he had seen Maureen McCormick driving around town smoking a cigarette. BTW, Take Down was the first PG movie distributed by Disney/Buena Vista.
I remember this all very well, and it was in the '79-'80 period when I was 9 or 10 years old, not 1 or 2.
I remember this all very well, and it was in the '79-'80 period when I was 9 or 10 years old, not 1 or 2.
1979?!? You mean... back in the Before Time?
All of that is moot, if something like The Mandela Effect is involved.
It's amazing how people can like Star Trek so much and at the same time insist that strange things are impossible just because they say so or the then-current state of science says so.
Well, right now quantum science is seriously considering a lot of things that people would think are bizarre and impossible. And there are more and more reports of conflicting memories. I'm not ready to chalk it all up to memory problems just yet. I'm waiting for further research into how multiple universes might intersect with each other at times. I'm not obsessed, but neither am I close-minded. The jury isn't in yet.
Instead of an oath of celibacy, Ilia is going to take an oath of promiscuity!
Ive already pre-ordered my tickets for that feature presentation.
I agree with what others have said previously, that I don't think TMP should have merited an R rating if it had gone with he non-gratioutous nudity of the sonic shower scene, and a few swear words here and there by Bones. Though I don't think the latter is needed.
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