Terran Empire better off if Lorca had won?

[USS Triumphant]

In another thread, I just mentioned that Lorca seemed sincere when he expressed respect for the crew of Discovery during his little speech where he was telling the Discovery crew that Burnham had traded herself for their escape. It made me wonder: if Lorca really did respect, for example, Saru, would the Terran Empire have been better off in the long-run if Lorca had succeeded in taking over?

(For purposes of the thread, let's set the matter of what was happening to the mycelial network to one side - assume it has some natural means to protect and repair itself that we just haven't seen yet, or some such. )

 

[Gary8]

Do you think he died in the ep or went into the network?

 

[Kor]

I think Mirror-Lorca died in the episode.

Kor

 

[Markonian]

Lorca espoused that the Emperor was too lenient towards aliens. The implication was that he’d start a genocidal campaign against all non-Human sentients within the Empire.

And that is bad.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Lorca espoused that the Emperor was too lenient towards aliens. The implication was that he’d start a genocidal campaign against all non-Human sentients within the Empire.

And that is bad.

It would be, but that might have just been his "Make the Empire Great Again" talk for the benefit of his followers, too. Who can say how he'd have actually governed? Well, you can. That's the point of this thread.

 

[Kibbin]

My assumption is it wouldn't have made much of a difference in the MU as he would soon be knocked off by some upstart who would soon be killed by someone with big ideas who would soon be assassinated by some young hotshot. I figure the Terran Empire is kind of like that one Futurama episode "My Three Suns".

 

[Kor]

Lorca espoused that the Emperor was too lenient towards aliens. The implication was that he’d start a genocidal campaign against all non-Human sentients within the Empire.

And that is bad.

No doubt Mirror Georgiou was continuing policies of alien engagement started by her predecessor and grandmother or great-aunt, none other than the famed Empress Sato.

Kor

 

[XCV330]

I doubt there was much to chose between Georgiou and Lorca. Both of them gone probably led to a power-vacuum and war. But on the other hand, neither of them left a body behind, or any witnesses to their death and there IS A Lorca over in the MU.

 

[USS Triumphant]

and there IS A Lorca over in the MU.

Well. Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if the Emperor during the time of the TOS MU episode was actually Prime Lorca, trying to do his best to mitigate the Empire, and that played a role in the "weakness" that allowed the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance to destroy the Empire as shown later on DS9?

 

[ITDUDE]

Do you think he died in the ep or went into the network?

Depends on how much Jason Isaacs will want to reprise Lorca. I am not 100% sold that if Lorca is back, it will puLorca

 

[XCV330]

Depends on how much Jason Isaacs will want to reprise Lorca. I am not 100% sold that if Lorca is back, it will puLorca

One reason why he could never come back as a captain. Prime or not, there's no way anyone could ever be entirely certain or feel safe around him.

 

[Kor]

Well. Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if the Emperor during the time of the TOS MU episode was actually Prime Lorca, trying to do his best to mitigate the Empire, and that played a role in the "weakness" that allowed the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance to destroy the Empire as shown later on DS9?

In David Mack's novel "The Sorrows of Empire," Hoshi Sato III, a clone of the first Empress Sato, ruled the Terran Empire at that time. Mirror Spock disposed of her using the Tantalus Field.

Kor

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm inclined to think 10 years is an eternity in a place like the Mirror Universe. Two years is probably an eternity. Everyone killing each other to get a leg up on the other person. Alliances shifting so fast and so often. Blink for even a moment and the whole tactical situation would become unrecognizable.

 

[Vger23]

If course the MU would be better off with Lorca.

Why???

Because it's FUCKING LORCA.

Only better play (maybe) would be Mirror Robau...but he's probably toast

 

[Makarov]

This is my issue with the whole plot, the emperor is introduced as this like B villain for mirror universe. But Lorca got developed and we know is a bad ass who deceived an entire universe. We don't know who is the better leader so I had to root for Lorca.

 

[Kytee]

My assumption is it wouldn't have made much of a difference in the MU as he would soon be knocked off by some upstart who would soon be killed by someone with big ideas who would soon be assassinated by some young hotshot. I figure the Terran Empire is kind of like that one Futurama episode "My Three Suns".

This is how I imagine it happening, the one thing we can be sure about regarding the MU is things are always changing, but evil always ends up on top.

 

[RPOW0614]

Lorca is not dead and he will be back.
Do you think a man who devised a plan to get to another universe, over throw a sitting emperor, and rule the known galaxy wouldn't have some means of transport if his vital signs spiked from a sword thru his chest?
Oh, Emperor Lorca the 1st will be back and having fresh Kelpian for lunch.
Long Live the Empire!

 

[XCV330]

Lorca is not dead and he will be back.
Do you think a man who devised a plan to get to another universe, over throw a sitting emperor, and rule the known galaxy wouldn't have some means of transport if his vital signs spiked from a sword thru his chest?
Oh, Emperor Lorca the 1st will be back and having fresh Kelpian for lunch.
Long Live the Empire!

Lorca's weakness, I think, was at he actually believed his own hype when it came to destiny, even if he had to engineer destiny itself. Dude is smart but he's no Kwistach Hadderach. Good lord he picked Landry as sec. chief.. easily one of the most foolish characters ever seen in Starfleet. His blind spot was Burnham. Mirror Burnham was raised in entirely different circumstances and had no romantic interest in him, perhaps no emotion at all for him beyond a previous simple gratitude. His reluctance to kill her at the end kept him from his goal.

 

[F. King Daniel]

If course the MU would be better off with Lorca.

Why???

Because it's FUCKING LORCA.

Only better play (maybe) would be Mirror Robau...but he's probably toast

I'm now shipping Lorca with MirroRobau.

Fucking A-1 power couple of the Star Trek multiverse right there.

 

[Jinn]

I'm now shipping Lorca with MirroRobau.

Is that mirror Lorca or ReguLorca? Because, we really should ship ReguLorca with MirroRobau, considering how nice their names flow.