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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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He’s more of a type of character I want Kara to end up with. I prefer the idea that Supergirl has a thing for nerds than models.
 
Of note from the link:

Perhaps Brainiac's "the future needs heroes" line refers to Winn only "fulfilling his full potential" in the future, where he will feel he can make a difference he's failed to in his own century. Then again, he's not really a "hero" in the vein of SG or Mon-El, so Braniac's line might refer to someone else.
So we will have less Wynn but Brainiac will be full time. I was wondering if Mon-El would be around for S4 or if he'd have a sacrifice play in tonight finale. This news makes me think not and that both Legion members will now be around for S4.
I've been holding out hope that some writer would find cause to give us an updated Red Tornado story. I feel that angle was just dropped and has potential. Even if Red is just in "sleep" mode for in-story reasons and only pulled out as a wild card in scenarios.
 
I have some issues with this finale. For one -- and this occurred to me when rewatching last week's episode -- why did Selena want to terraform Earth so Kryptonians could live there? Two Kryptonians -- five if you count Sam, Julia, and the doctor -- have lived quite comfortably on Earth for decades. In fact, Earth is a far healthier environment for Kryptonians than Krypton ever was! The only thing on Earth that can possibly hurt them is rocks from Krypton! Although I guess the goal of the "terraforming" (or kryptonforming) was really more about killing off humanity. But maybe it was just blinkered conservatism, a blind insistence on maintaining the old ways even when a new way is objectively better.

Speaking of things being questionably better, the defeat of Reign didn't make much sense. Supergirl decides she made a mistake by forgetting her principles and being willing to kill, so she instead defeated Reign by dragging her into the magic dimension and letting the demons kill her? How is that being truer to her principles? Also, the turn-back-time solution is a bit too reminiscent of the Donner movie, although at least they didn't have her make the Earth spin backward to do it.

All the action stuff seemed kind of incidental to shifting the characters around to their new status quo. Mon-El and Winn leave for the future, Brainy stays at the DEO, Alex gets promoted, J'onn steps down, James outs himself... That's a lot of changes. From what J'onn said about not leaving, I assume he'll still be a regular, but I wonder in what capacity. Maybe Detective John Jones of the NCPD? The fedora he donned at the end seemed like a nod to the original comics character.

And what could that duplicate of Supergirl be about? Was she split like Sam and Reign? Or could this be some version of Power Girl? Maybe they'll draw on the DC Animated Universe equivalent of Power Girl, Supergirl's evil clone Galatea.
 
Supergirl--
"Battles Lost and Won" - Season 3 finale


SG/Kara: "I will not kill!" "I've lost track of what I stand for" Sign. In a life or death situation, that comes off as being naïve in the extreme. So a dubious stand on killing is worth an entire species? MMkay....

Her predicted decision to remain on earth rendered the "is she gone forever?" plot of a few episodes ago rather pointless, since no one believed she was staying on Argo in any case.

Selena / Dark Kryptonian Witches / Coville
: Yep, Coville turned on the witches as I believed he would, but he's hardly paid the price for his crimes.
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Reign / Samantha: Ultimately, Ruby seemed more interested in her hero-worship of the idea of her mother having superpowers than her mother's own health.

James: James exposing his identity screamed that Guardian was not long for the show, and if Guardian goes, there's not much for James to do (not that he had much to do since early season two), aside from being the center of some forthcoming conflict between Lena, Supergirl...Red Supergirl... See notes....

J'onn: His father's death was just as rushed and ultimately out of place as the rest of that mini-arc. With David Harwood possibly stepping away from the series (hence promoting Alex to head of the DEO), I doubt he will be missed, as J'onn--such a significant character in the comics--has been so underserved here.

Imra: So, she piles on a ton of excuses why she's in the wrong, but that does not speak to her love for her husband at all. Convenient, Teen Nick "writing" was...convenient.

Brainiac:
Oh, please. The other Brainiac's attack on A.I.s is the reason he has to stay in the 21st century? Ahhh, there's that plot convenience again, and the all too obvious reason to have Jesse Rath replace the departing Jeremy Jordan..

NOTES: So, three seasons in, and this arc just fell flat. It was utterly anti-climatic, with none of the "threats" carrying the weight it should for a series running this long. Supergirl seems more focused on giddy soap-opera than serious world building of consequence (see the Netflix Marvel series for successful examples).with the exception of all things Lena.

On that note, I take it the appearance of another SG in Siberia means a possible rip on Millar's Superman: Red Sun comic mini-series, along with mistaken identity chaos, with the possibility of Schemin' Lena engineering it all to have her own SG out of the DEO's radar.That said, I doubt the series will follow the comic of having Luthor (in this case, Lena) becoming president with James being her running mate.

"Superman saves Madagascar.." So, with one throwaway line that's supposed to explain (not really) why he still had zero presence and interest in showing up at any point of this final Kryptonian plot. That's what the showrunners pulled, but that BS did not work.

The CG--from the Martian scenes that looked like something from a 1990s video game, to the crumbling buildings and Legion ship were awful. There's no excuse for a show produced this far into the 21st century--with endless superior examples on TV and film existing in that same time--to continue to lowball a key element required to sell the fantasy.

GRADE: C-
 
Using Brainiac (who seems to be just a AI here and not Coluan) as the future threat seems rather redundant since he's already attacking Krypton in another show. I would have used Imperiex or something.
That original ending was done rather poorly. I also found it odd she just assumed they were dead. Usually people like to check that.

Anyway, bring on Manchester Black and the Elite. That ending with a clone of Supergirl in Russia seems rather clché. America and Russia are best buds these days so that isn't much of a threat. Unless of course she gets a metal arm and is brainwashed. :)
 
On that note, I take it the appearance of another SG in Siberia means a possible rip on Millar's Superman: Red Sun comic mini-series, along with mistaken identity chaos, with the possibility of Schemin' Lena engineering it all to have her own SG out of the DEO's radar.
Yeah, that crossed my mind at that scene.

I'd had a major man crush on John Haymes Newton before I even knew I had gay leanings. :lol: I was a late bloomer. I don't know why I'm saying this. It's just as an aside.
Even as a straight guy I couldn't help notice that he uh, really filled that costume.
 
I have some issues with this finale. For one -- and this occurred to me when rewatching last week's episode -- why did Selena want to terraform Earth so Kryptonians could live there? Two Kryptonians -- five if you count Sam, Julia, and the doctor -- have lived quite comfortably on Earth for decades. In fact, Earth is a far healthier environment for Kryptonians than Krypton ever was! The only thing on Earth that can possibly hurt them is rocks from Krypton! Although I guess the goal of the "terraforming" (or kryptonforming) was really more about killing off humanity. But maybe it was just blinkered conservatism, a blind insistence on maintaining the old ways even when a new way is objectively better.

Speaking of things being questionably better, the defeat of Reign didn't make much sense. Supergirl decides she made a mistake by forgetting her principles and being willing to kill, so she instead defeated Reign by dragging her into the magic dimension and letting the demons kill her? How is that being truer to her principles? Also, the turn-back-time solution is a bit too reminiscent of the Donner movie, although at least they didn't have her make the Earth spin backward to do it.

All the action stuff seemed kind of incidental to shifting the characters around to their new status quo. Mon-El and Winn leave for the future, Brainy stays at the DEO, Alex gets promoted, J'onn steps down, James outs himself... That's a lot of changes. From what J'onn said about not leaving, I assume he'll still be a regular, but I wonder in what capacity. Maybe Detective John Jones of the NCPD? The fedora he donned at the end seemed like a nod to the original comics character.

And what could that duplicate of Supergirl be about? Was she split like Sam and Reign? Or could this be some version of Power Girl? Maybe they'll draw on the DC Animated Universe equivalent of Power Girl, Supergirl's evil clone Galatea.

The time travel bit also reminded me of the Donner-era film. :lol: What was more amusing to me was when Reign was dragged by the Kryptonian demons, which reminded me of the ending of the 1990s supernatural drama Ghost, when Tony Goldwyn's character Carl was also dragged by demons. :D

That was a rather bittersweet finale. I hate to see Winn and J'onn both leave the team. Seems like there's a major cast shakeup although David Harwood and Jeremy Jordan are the only ones who aren't coming back. I guess if you count Mon El, Alura, Sam and Ruby amongst those leaving or returning to their homes, it seems like a mass exodus.

So the Harun El created a duplicate of Kara? It only seems logical, since it was instrumental in separating Sam from the Reign entity.
 
Not an identical duplicate.

One loves Earth and the other loves Krypton, well Argo.

The clue is where the other one who is not naked, says (something like) "Argo is not my home, I belong on Earth now."

99 percent of the Kryptonians we have ever seen who were not raised on Earth were complete assholes.

"Kara Too" is going to be one of those assholes.

Winn.

If Winn doesn't invent the applications of new tech, then he hasn't done shit to found history.

Brainy has to fake it.

Fixing and releasing all of Winn's tech on a predetermined timetable.

Therefore Winn is History's punk, and not deserving any awe from the legionaries because his genius is fake news.
 
I kind of expect they may phase out CatCo as a setting altogether, what with James spending more time at the DEO

Hmm, after the finale it would be easier to phase out the DEO.

Which wouldn't be a bad idea, mind you. I'd love it if next season focused more on regular life, rather than the workings of a secret government organization. Ever since they moved away from CatCo we haven't seen much of Kara Danvers' life, so I think a return there could be interesting, seeing Kara deal with her regular job and being Supergirl, and settling in after all the ups and downs of the past two seasons. CatCo also opens up room for drama other than the romance kind, the Kara/Lena dynamic could play out there, James' outing as Guardian and whatever he decides to do next, we could see Brainy adapting to life in the 21st century, and with J'onn walking the streets we could have a nice P.I./reporter dynamic between him and SG, keeping the show more grounded. The only odd woman out would be Alex, but it'd be easy enough to include her, especially if the new reporter character turns out to be her love interest ;)
 
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