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Spoilers The Flash - Season 4

I think you're letting your experience with the stereotype color your impression of that page. If anything, it's one of the more respectful Dr. Thirteen portrayals out there, in that it depicts him not as a fool who claims 'hoax' despite all evidence but as someone who genuinely has only encountered hoaxes and only ever will. As Constantine says, as far as Thirteen's own experiences goes, he's right. The idea is that all those cases he investigated really are fake because magic will never intersect with his life, just as it won't for all the millions who aren't like Tim Hunter and Constantine.

There's metaphoric power in that. Like spirituality, it's something that's not real to everyone else and will never effect them... but yet has great meaning and real effect for those who believe.

That still makes it sound like the scientific viewpoint is incapable of expanding to encompass something new, but in fact that's exactly what science does all the time. Plenty of scientists study things that will never "intersect" with their lives. They don't just sit around waiting for things to come to them, they actively go looking for things they don't already know. Because that is literally their job.

Besides, I find it a contrived dodge, an excuse to "hide" magic in a fictional universe that you're pretending is like our own. Why bother? If magic is part of that fictional universe, then it's not our universe, so why waste the effort pretending? Let the magic just be real. Let it be a part of the world that has a clear impact. Explore how its existence makes the human experience different than it is in our lives. That's the power of speculative fiction, that ability to explore how new discoveries or phenomena or alternative paths in history would change the world and the way people lived. I don't like SF and fantasy that hides its extraordinary elements behind a veil of secrecy, because it's a copout. And because writers often have to go to ridiculously contrived lengths to keep the secret. It's always more interesting when the secret comes out and actually affects the world. For instance, iZombie has become enormously more interesting since the existence of zombies became public knowledge at the end of season 3.
 
So anyway, The Flash, someone made a Game of Thrones style house sigil and words for House Allen:

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Um...So Ralphie has all the powers DeVoe took??

If so, they could do an episode titled "Honey, I blew up the baby" next season :lol:
 
Um...So Ralphie has all the powers DeVoe took??

I'm sure that, through some sort of comic-book science handwave, he's only got his own Elongated Man powers. Maybe when DeVoe uploaded himself to the chair, he took the dark matter associated with the other powers along with him, rather than leave a member of Team Flash in control of the vast amount of power he'd intended for himself. Or maybe he engineered their powers in such a way that his consciousness was the only one that could use them other than the individual metas themselves. Or maybe Ralph's body would naturally reject any dark matter other than his own, and DeVoe was using Melting Point's power to hold that in check, or something.

In any case, if they want to keep him as a regular, they have to limit him to one power set, otherwise he's not the Elongated Man, he's the Everything Man. And he'd be too powerful for any villain to pose much of a challenge for him.
 
Maybe they can have one or two episodes where he realizes he has those powers, but once used, they're gone. Of course what ever is left, Barry will try to talk him into dispensing with the remaining ones which of course will mean the next episode one of those powers will be desperately needed. Another bad Barry Allen call.
 
Maybe he made Joe’s house become alive and Barry has to destroy it, explaining why Nora didn’t seem to know it.

:lol:
 
If next season or a portion is about yet another speedster on The Flash altering the timeline, I am going to be annoyed if the Legends don't appear to fix the anomalies. You have a team(and organization) who responds to alterations in the timeline, but NEVER do they appear when the timeline is changed on The Flash.
And Kid Flash, a Legend, is even right there when it happened.
 
That's good about Nicolet. Does anyone know if the Elonged Man will also be a regular?

Jason
 
I just can't believe they made up a new character named after Barry's Mom instead of using Dawn or Jenny, characters that already existed and fit the character profile. Smh.
 
I just can't believe they made up a new character named after Barry's Mom instead of using Dawn or Jenny, characters that already existed and fit the character profile. Smh.

The character of Nora Allen as Barry's child from the future was introduced last year in a Justice League comics storyline called "Legacy," by Bryan Hitch and Fernando Pasarin. Apparently she goes by Cruise, and in the comics she's one of a group of Justice League offspring from a post-apocalyptic future.
 
I just can't believe they made up a new character named after Barry's Mom instead of using Dawn or Jenny, characters that already existed and fit the character profile. Smh.

bets the headahce when people start bleating about how the character isn't the same on screen as it in the comics.
 
The character of Nora Allen as Barry's child from the future was introduced last year in a Justice League comics storyline called "Legacy," by Bryan Hitch and Fernando Pasarin. Apparently she goes by Cruise, and in the comics she's one of a group of Justice League offspring from a post-apocalyptic future.

Also because her mom is Jessica Cruz.

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/08/09/justice-league-future-kids-revealed/#4

Barry and Jessica have two more kids, twins, with (biological) Green Lantern-like powers.
 
The character of Nora Allen as Barry's child from the future was introduced last year in a Justice League comics storyline called "Legacy," by Bryan Hitch and Fernando Pasarin. Apparently she goes by Cruise, and in the comics she's one of a group of Justice League offspring from a post-apocalyptic future.

Is that kind of a not spoiler but feels like a spoiler bit of information? If she is from a post-apocalyptic future in that comic it's kind of easy to see why she might have come back in time. I wonder if might see our characters who are much older also living in this future through flashbacks or a simply time travel trip to the future which i'm not sure is something that can break time like Barry's trips to the past had done.

Jason
 
Is that kind of a not spoiler but feels like a spoiler bit of information?

I don't think the origin of a character in the comics is necessarily a spoiler for the character loosely based on them in the Arrowverse. They've changed a lot of characters in all sorts of ways, like making Vibe and Killer Frost scientists, having Jefferson Jackson become Firestorm while Jason Rusch was just a one-time exposition device, etc.
 
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