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Kathleen Kennedy Damaging Star Wars....?

I think Sony has to release it before a certain date or lose the rights and they are desperate for any property that's known and could possibly make a profit. So it will probably be rushed and an awful piece of shit like everything Sony releases.

Well that sucks, but I'm more excited about the She-Ra cartoon anyway.
 
Well that sucks, but I'm more excited about the She-Ra cartoon anyway.
Sony producing a movie should be seen as a major red flag. It's why my expectations for Venom are so low that it being watchable will be seen as an achievement.
 
Sony producing a movie should be seen as a major red flag. It's why my expectations for Venom are so low that it being watchable will be seen as an achievement.

It has Tom Hardy in it. My wife will be there opening weekend, no matter how bad the movie is. :lol:
 
If I had photoshop skills at this point I would make a Yoda on Dagobah with Iger's face.



Kenobi feels like an exception, people seemed to like Ewan in the role.
Ewan is a big enough star that it should be a draw even for casual viewers.

Kor
 
Amazing isn't it? The SJW agenda is killing SW, which explains why the film with the female lead was one of the most successful movies of all time, but the one with the white guy bombed.

Makes perfect sense.

Seriously, your posts come across as simplistic flag-waving and this snarky post explains why.

Whatever metric you want to apply to the grosses of the new Star Wars films, the bottom line is Kathleen Kennedy is not leaving Lucasfilm of her own accord regardless of what kind of PR excuses are concocted to cover things. They're rapidly going down the path of diminishing returns.

Even Ron Howard himself is blaming Solo's grosses on fan backlash over The Last Jedi. So yes, the film with the female lead could have been responsible for poisoning the well to the point where people's franchise engagement simply wasn't high enough to give Solo a chance.

Also, what money TLJ made is probably more to do with people wanting to see Luke again in something more than a cameo rather than the box-office draw of a lightweight like Daisy Ridley. The best moments in the film were OT characters doing stuff, like the Luke and Leia reunion complete with grace-notes like Luke winking at C-3PO (which was Mark's idea, not Rian's).

But no, let's continue to avoid judging the film on its own merits and get back on that identity politics soapbox dammit!
 
Also, what money TLJ made is probably more to do with people wanting to see Luke again in something more than a cameo rather than the box-office draw of a lightweight like Daisy Ridley. The best moments in the film were OT characters doing stuff, like the Luke and Leia reunion complete with grace-notes like Luke winking at C-3PO (which was Mark's idea, not Rian's).
On this point, I'll disagree. Some of the best moments were with Finn against Phasma, or in Snoke's throne room. There were many emotionally powerful moments that were not held together by the OT characters.

Regardless, the film is a good film on its own merits, made money, and Kennedy isn't going anywhere because Bob Iger and Lawrence Kasdan pushed for Solo.

Even Ron Howard himself is blaming Solo's grosses on fan backlash over The Last Jedi.
I've seen this claim twice now. Where is the evidence?
 
Also, what money TLJ made is probably more to do with people wanting to see Luke again in something more than a cameo rather than the box-office draw of a lightweight like Daisy Ridley. The best moments in the film were OT characters doing stuff, like the Luke and Leia reunion complete with grace-notes like Luke winking at C-3PO (which was Mark's idea, not Rian's).

If people can't let go, then the franchise needs to be put out of its misery now. Because Kennedy can't save it, nor can anyone else.

Mark Hamill was a light-weight in 1977.

Nowhere in the tweets in question does Howard even reference The Last Jedi. All he does is suggest that he’s disappointed people are seeing Solo in theaters with proper sound, and in another tweet thanking those who do. This is reaching, as it so often is with this anti-TLJ backlash.

It is truly stunning how much is made up about The Last Jedi, it seriously reminds me of the time around Star Trek Into Darkness.
 
Nowhere in the tweets in question does Howard even reference The Last Jedi. All he does is suggest that he’s disappointed people are seeing Solo in theaters with proper sound, and in another tweet thanking those who do. This is reaching, as it so often is with this anti-TLJ backlash.
The boldfaced would be "aren't."

Saying it is reaching is too kind. The claim that Ron Howard is blaming TLJ is totally fabricated.
 
Seriously, your posts come across as simplistic flag-waving and this snarky post explains why.

Do they? That's nice, it must be so refreshing for someone to be open and honest to contrast with all the weakly veiled agendas.

Whatever metric you want to apply to the grosses of the new Star Wars films, the bottom line is Kathleen Kennedy is not leaving Lucasfilm of her own accord regardless of what kind of PR excuses are concocted to cover things. They're rapidly going down the path of diminishing returns.

So you keep saying despite all the actual figures. By any metric this is one of the most successful movies of all time, being the most profitable film of the year and the fourth highest grossing movie Disney have ever made.

You continuing to insist otherwise based on nothing more than mimicking what you've heard on youtube from people who's opinions are valued so little they have no other platform doesn't alter the fact that what you are saying is literally the opposite of the truth.

Even Ron Howard himself is blaming Solo's grosses on fan backlash over The Last Jedi.

And yet he himself seems to be unaware he is doing so, given that no one can find this quote you've been asked for, only ones where he says nothing even vaguely similar.

So yes, the film with the female lead could have been responsible for poisoning the well to the point where people's franchise engagement simply wasn't high enough to give Solo a chance.

Could have been, but as hypotheses go it should hardly be the favourite given how every single survey and poll showed audiences loving TLJ.

Also, what money TLJ made is probably more to do with people wanting to see Luke again in something more than a cameo rather than the box-office draw of a lightweight like Daisy Ridley.

Probably, as in "in my opinion"? Much like you "opinion" that Ron Howard blames this really successful movie for the death of the franchise, or your "opinion" where the voices in your head are telling you the fanchise is in fact dying?

The best moments in the film were OT characters doing stuff, like the Luke and Leia reunion complete with grace-notes like Luke winking at C-3PO (which was Mark's idea, not Rian's).

Where they? Ok.

But no, let's continue to avoid judging the film on its own merits and get back on that identity politics soapbox dammit!

That would be lovely, but the problem is that's all the hate is about, pathetically veiled so a few deeply insecure people can hide the simple ugly truth they don't want to admit about themselves, that they are deeply uncomfortable with a shift away from a format where the default is straight white lead. Shame really given the vast majority of both audience and critics loved the film.
 
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Oh dear, so if I'm understanding right, I'm supposed to believe the movies with female leads, which did so absolutely amazing selling tickets, are somehow responsible for the film with a male hero performing poorly? So like basically, when something goes wrong all you've got to do to figure out the problem is find where the women are involved, right? Oh if only we wouldn't keep messing everything up for you!
 
Oh dear, so if I'm understanding right, I'm supposed to believe the movies with female leads, which did so absolutely amazing selling tickets, are somehow responsible for the film with a male hero performing poorly? So like basically, when something goes wrong all you've got to do to figure out the problem is find where the women are involved, right? Oh if only we wouldn't keep messing everything up for you!

Apparently, yes. This is what the naysayers are suggesting. Makes so much sense, doesn't it?

Also, as a male, I apologize for those jerkish members of my gender.
 
Oh dear, so if I'm understanding right, I'm supposed to believe the movies with female leads, which did so absolutely amazing selling tickets, are somehow responsible for the film with a male hero performing poorly? So like basically, when something goes wrong all you've got to do to figure out the problem is find where the women are involved, right? Oh if only we wouldn't keep messing everything up for you!

Yeah, somehow or other, it'll be down to the woman, no matter what hoops we have to jump through to make that make sense
 
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