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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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IMO season 3 has been all over the place.

One of this show's main problems is that people just suddenly turn up and become best friends (and more) with the protagonists extremely quickly. Last season it was the same with Lena and Meggie - this year it's Sam. 2 episodes or so into this season and she was Lena, Alex and Kara's best friend with little to no introduction. So, I'm sorry but I can't relate to all that angsting over a character who most likely will be gone at the end of the season/early next season anyway just as quickly as she popped up.

And speaking of Sam: Why has no one thought of using Ruby to help her? I mean she's her daughter which should mean she has some genetic markers that could be used to fashion a cure. Is she fully human? Otherwise, she's of absolutely no use and the typical TV-daughter who doesn't listen and gets in the way (and leads the baddies to her).

Rediscovering Agos and Alura... wasted 2 episodes. First of all why wouldn't Alura ask after Superman (who's mysteriously not even mentionned at all during this Kryptionian crisis)? Why doesn't Kara recognize her home-city - only to then recognize her father's lab and quite a few other details? And why would Alura greet Alex with such delight (thank you for taking in Kara who was in supergirl-mode - right in front of Lena) without thinking?

The less said about those blood vials, the better - I mean why throw them to Selina and only explode them with the laser vision after she caught them? Why not just simply throw them on the floor and destroy them with the vision? That way, Selina wouldn't have had the blood remnants on her hand to resurrect Reign. Poor writing.

Could have done without the Meggie-Alex breakup angst or the J'onn' father's Alzheimer's subplot. Mon-El's pining after Kara gets boring rather quickly as well (especially as he's still married, but at least he has his wife's permission... urgh). Also didn't understand Kara's blowing up at Lena about the Kryptonite. Granted, it can be used against her - but the way she came across was horribly arrogant and entitled. Why shouldn't humans be allowed a weapon against Kryptonians... and yes, even against Superman and/or Supergirl? And right now, having Kryptonite is a pretty good idea. Of course, there should be measures that its use is controlled etc, but to actually forbid Lena her research because it could be used against Kara? Small wonder, Lena lost trust in Supergirl.

But then again, all that plot about non-lethal weapons was so poorly done and in the face that it wasn't even funny anymore. I mean, all for it - but shouldn't the DEO have other weapons at their disposal *before* abandoning those that work? And shield or no shield, that redshirt would have been dead, hit by 3 laser vision beams. So why guilt-tripping Winn here?

And why did they change the title music?

So, no matter how this season ends the show has lost quite some of its appeal to me. The writing has been sloppy, the pacing uneven and the characterization wonky in some regards.
 
Dick Whitman said:
The thing that really bothered me is Kara never mentions Kal-El being alive to her mother. Or am I forgetting something? The original plan was for the older Kara to watch over her younger cousin. She told Alura about being raised by the Danvers. Yet skipped over the huge detail of an adult Kal-El finding her own Earth and him choosing the Danvers to raise her.
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She did say in passing "I made it to Earth, with Kal-El," and said yes when Alura asked "Kal-El's alive?" But they didn't follow up beyond that, at least not on camera. Presumably they had plenty of in-depth conversations between scenes.


Claudia said:
The less said about those blood vials, the better - I mean why throw them to Selina and only explode them with the laser vision after she caught them? Why not just simply throw them on the floor and destroy them with the vision? That way, Selina wouldn't have had the blood remnants on her hand to resurrect Reign. Poor writing.
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Yeah, that was a clumsy plot beat to make sure the villains got what they wanted. I'm reminded of...

Why didn't Thor go for the head? Or chop off Thanos's arm? He's an experienced enough warrior that he should've known better.


Could have done without the Meggie-Alex breakup angst or the J'onn' father's Alzheimer's subplot.
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I can empathize with the latter subplot from family experience, and so can many other people, I'm sure. I think it's been well-done, though I wish they'd had the FX budget to delve more deeply into the memory transfer, or at least have the J'onnzes wear their true forms for it.


Mon-El's pining after Kara gets boring rather quickly as well (especially as he's still married, but at least he has his wife's permission... urgh).
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Apparently polyamory is becoming more popular/acceptable with the younger generations. And who knows what the values will be 1000 years from now?

And why did they change the title music?
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New composer, apparently. Also they got new showrunners this season, so presumably they wanted a change.
 
Claudia said:
And speaking of Sam: Why has no one thought of using Ruby to help her? I mean she's her daughter which should mean she has some genetic markers that could be used to fashion a cure. Is she fully human? Otherwise, she's of absolutely no use and the typical TV-daughter who doesn't listen and gets in the way (and leads the baddies to her).
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Because Ruby is pure human.
 
I wonder if any additional discussion of Kal-El was filmed but cut because the episode was running long. These shows have cut really important stuff before. Most recently the season finale of The Flash. The producer said they cut the tease for next seasons’s villian.
 
Claudia said:
IMO season 3 has been all over the place.
One of this show's main problems is that people just suddenly turn up and become best friends (and more) with the protagonists extremely quickly. Last season it was the same with Lena and Meggie - this year it's Sam. 2 episodes or so into this season and she was Lena, Alex and Kara's best friend with little to no introduction. So, I'm sorry but I can't relate to all that angsting over a character who most likely will be gone at the end of the season/early next season anyway just as quickly as she popped up.
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Well observed--but the series has the need to make most characters one, big happy pack, instead of building realistic relationships (for the purposes of drama) between people who have nothing in common, and in Lena's case, stands the ideological opposite side of the street, or world in some cases.

And speaking of Sam: Why has no one thought of using Ruby to help her? I mean she's her daughter which should mean she has some genetic markers that could be used to fashion a cure. Is she fully human? Otherwise, she's of absolutely no use and the typical TV-daughter who doesn't listen and gets in the way (and leads the baddies to her).
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Agreed; Ruby is one of those long-abused TV gimmicks that never worked even in the earliest days of the medium. Their nature is either to whine, or be so hardheaded that nothing stops them from overstepping the natural boundaries of age, experience or common sense, just to place themselves or others in easily avoidable peril.

Rediscovering Agos and Alura... wasted 2 episodes. First of all why wouldn't Alura ask after Superman (who's mysteriously not even mentionned at all during this Kryptionian crisis)? Why doesn't Kara recognize her home-city - only to then recognize her father's lab and quite a few other details? And why would Alura greet Alex with such delight (thank you for taking in Kara who was in supergirl-mode - right in front of Lena) without thinking?
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The entire Argo plot is a mess, where no one acts or reacts as they should about each other, or their situation. Its largely a thin "Can Kara Go Hone Again?" plot (about Argo) that will very likely end with "There's No Place Like Home" regarding earth.

The less said about those blood vials, the better - I mean why throw them to Selina and only explode them with the laser vision after she caught them? Why not just simply throw them on the floor and destroy them with the vision? That way, Selina wouldn't have had the blood remnants on her hand to resurrect Reign. Poor writing.
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More like Plot Convenience, as no one knowing the danger those vials represented would have done anything else other than destroy them as fast as possible. Instead, said Plot Convenience leads to the season finale.

...the J'onn' father's Alzheimer's subplot.
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The plot had some potential, but it seemed to be created only to give J'onn something to do other than stand around with his hands on his hips. Much like the M'gann plot, this one (his father on a death mission) will end with no true world-building for a character that should have a far greater presence in a DC adaptation.

Mon-El's pining after Kara gets boring rather quickly as well (especially as he's still married, but at least he has his wife's permission... urgh).
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Arguably the most unrealistic plot in the season. There's no such thing as believing in/honoring marriage if allows characters jump aboard the S.S. Adultery to sail past what's supposed to be a lifelong commitment as implied in the Imra/Mon-El scenes. Nope--its back to Teen Nick time, so Kara is slowly being rewarded for her crush, which seems to be one glance away from boarding that ship.

Also didn't understand Kara's blowing up at Lena about the Kryptonite. Granted, it can be used against her - but the way she came across was horribly arrogant and entitled. Why shouldn't humans be allowed a weapon against Kryptonians... and yes, even against Superman and/or Supergirl? And right now, having Kryptonite is a pretty good idea. Of course, there should be measures that its use is controlled etc, but to actually forbid Lena her research because it could be used against Kara? Small wonder, Lena lost trust in Supergirl.
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This was discussed at length in this thread, and just on a legal/ethical argument, Lena is not obligated to not collect Kryptonite, or manufacture synthetic versions. Supergirl--or anyone else--has no authority over Lena's right to the scientific application of Kryptonite. As seen in this week's episode, it was thanks to Kryptonite bullets that gave Alex a fighting chance against the witches. Remove that, and she--along with more agents--would have died / or bought time for SG, Mon-El and Alura to make the trip to earth in time.

But then again, all that plot about non-lethal weapons was so poorly done and in the face that it wasn't even funny anymore. I mean, all for it - but shouldn't the DEO have other weapons at their disposal *before* abandoning those that work? And shield or no shield, that redshirt would have been dead, hit by 3 laser vision beams. So why guilt-tripping Winn here?
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Aside from the quickie decision for the DEO to use non-lethal weapons, this episode proved that both Kryptonite bullets worked, while non-lethal options failed miserably. That was an outcome the showrunners had to address, but it remains to be seen if the lesson will stick into future episodes. Regarding Winn's guilt-trip, this could set up James trying to prove the non-violent way is correct, but as mentioned days ago, I would not be surprised if he "proves" it by being killed off, but before he takes his last breath, gives Winn some inspirational speech designed to prevent him from "going dark" (meaning turning into a version of his father) as a result of James' death.

So, no matter how this season ends the show has lost quite some of its appeal to me. The writing has been sloppy, the pacing uneven and the characterization wonky in some regards.
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Certain episodes deserved its higher marks when the conflicts were justified and moved toward the realistic behavior lane, but it does struggle to build in a coherent manner with characters one season after the next.

Christopher said:
She did say in passing "I made it to Earth, with Kal-El," and said yes when Alura asked "Kal-El's alive?" But they didn't follow up beyond that, at least not on camera. Presumably they had plenty of in-depth conversations between scenes.
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That's filling in blanks for what was an obvious "out of sight, out of mind" handling of all things Kal-El in this Kryptonian storyline.

Yeah, that was a clumsy plot beat to make sure the villains got what they wanted. I'm reminded of...

Why didn't Thor go for the head? Or chop off Thanos's arm? He's an experienced enough warrior that he should've known better.
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Agreed.
 
Alura and Kara barely talked on-screen about what was going on with themselves over the years, there should have been way more of that really before even considering chatting about Kal-El.
 
Pretty Imra giving Mon-El all that slack, is like when Lucy let Jimmy figure out that he was way more into Kara too, and gave him a hall pass to proceed on those feelings.

It's sad that millennials have no idea how to boil a bunny.
 
I am happy with these casting changes. Jeremy Jordan is a likable guy and clearly very talented. But the character of Winn has always been a weak Cisco clone. He does not have Cisco’s superpowers or personality which we see in his relationships with the different Wells.

I really wish The Flash would reduce some of its cast to recurring. So that their characters could actually grow and change. Instead of just being cogs in the machinery of Team Flash.
 
Brainiac 5 and Winn go to fire island for half a season, to plumb their feelings.

What number Brainiac was Indigo in the Arrowverse?
 
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