Star Trek: Discovery - Pop Cultural Analysis & Observations

[PiotrB]

https://www.spoilertv.com/2018/05/opinion-star-trek-discovery-pop.html

Interesting opinion about DSC's pop cultural connections inter alia but not only to B. Fullers's Hannibal.

 

[Refuge]

Golly that was very analytical! Unfortunately I haven't seen some of the shows it was being compared to.

The names of angels and character are kind of obvious. Though the Burnham (burn them/'em) parallel seems a convoluted stretch. Wonder why the writer didn't analyse the meaning of Phillipa Georgiou? Like isn't that two masculine rooted names? I checked and Phillip means friend of horses and George is clearly something to do with dragons. You know when you think about it that 'burn 'em' reference and a dragon one too, go together.

 

[Qonundrum]

Or Phillipa Louvois. But that's still a name that's derivative of a male connotation with another letter grafted on.

"Michael", I'll agree, seems as forced as "Bill" was for "Doctor Who". But "Bill" was a 4th wall reference to William "Bill" Hartnell, since Bill's galactic squeeze was named "Heather" - as in William Hartnell's wife. What's the behind the scenes cleverness behind "Michael" being reduced to a callback or hollow point? And when do we get to see male figures called "Jill" or "Diane", noting that will never happen due to an equally contrived attempt at double standard.

 

[Qonundrum]

(Technicalities aside, in the future, who knows what names are and TV tropes had pointed out years ago that for decades sci-fi has decided the future hasn't changed when it comes to names and styles, since the hangover from the 1960s and 1970s ended when anything futuristic had more tinfoil than a tin of Jiffy Pop brand popcorn, wide shoulder pads or lapels, goofy color schemes... or styles that, if we showed what we all wear today to someone in 1620, they'd think it'd look just as stupid too. Yet everyone says stagnation is bad. Whatever, I'm getting popcorn.)

 

[Tuskin38]

Fuller has a habit of giving female characters masculine names. He did it before in some of his previous shows.

 

[cultcross]

And when do we get to see male figures called "Jill" or "Diane", noting that will never happen due to an equally contrived attempt at double standard.

Don't even know what the second part of that is supposed to mean, but neither Jill nor Diane are used as unisex names. Michael may be less common as a girl's name, but as was evidenced extensively when the character detail was first released, there are plenty of women called Michael. I don't meet many male Dianes. But we could certainly have a male character named Lindsey, perhaps, or Quinn.

 

[Refuge]

You're right there's not much that comes to mind that is male and could be derivative of 'Diane'. Indiana might work, it did for Mr. Jones. (Some boys are named Gill).

 

[lawman]

For what it's worth, my dad's name is Clair. (And boy, did he take a lot of flak for it as a kid, from what I hear...)

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Don't even know what the second part of that is supposed to mean, but neither Jill nor Diane are used as unisex names. Michael may be less common as a girl's name, but as was evidenced extensively when the character detail was first released, there are plenty of women called Michael. I don't meet many male Dianes. But we could certainly have a male character named Lindsey, perhaps, or Quinn.

Well:

http://www.babynamescience.com/baby-name/Diane-boy

Of course that site says the name is "very unique" for boys, which is a nonsensical qualification (there's only one way to be unique, and there are no shades of being unique), but that's presently just another one of those uphill battles against the corruption of language.

They probably just mean "very unusual."

 

[Jesse1066]

Well:

http://www.babynamescience.com/baby-name/Diane-boy

Of course that site says the name is "very unique" for boys, which is a nonsensical qualification (there's only one way to be unique, and there are no shades of being unique), but that's presently just another one of those uphill battles against the corruption of language.

They probably just mean "very unusual."

"Very unique" is one of my grandfather's biggest pet peeves.

 

[Prax]

When I was very young, I had a neighbor friend named Jordan, and since Jordan was a girl, I thought it was a girl's name. Then, a few years later, we carpooled to school with a guy named Jordan, and I remember first thinking "That's weird he has a girl's name."

Then I came across many other guys named Jordan, and found out it was a boy's name. And now, I associate "Jordan" with a boy's name.