By making that statement, you are mistakenly, wrongfully, and offensively implying the conservatives do not belief in truth and justice, which is about as far from reality as you can get.
No, by their choices of leadership and subsequent continued support of that leadership in spite of all the provable wrong it's done, conservatives (
#NotAllConservatives, but a sizable majority) themselves are implying that they don't believe in truth and justice. There are so many more past and current examples I could cite, but I'll even tie one arm behind my back and just use a single ongoing example to prove my point: Donald J. Trump.
Truth:
In 500 days, Donald Trump has said 1655 false things
All False statements involving Donald Trump
Justice:
Legal affairs of Donald Trump
List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump
Read the 191 Arguments President Trump Has Made Against the Mueller Investigation
Can President Trump Pardon Himself?
There Is Only One Trump Scandal - The myriad Trump scandals can obscure the fact that they’re all elements of one massive tale of corruption
And just for shits and giggles, the American Way (under "U" for "United States"):
The 459 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List
No conservative wants to wrongfully convict an innocent to death.
Donald Trump Says Central Park Five Are Guilty, Despite DNA Evidence
Wading into a racially-charged case from his past, Donald Trump indicated that the "Central Park Five" were guilty, despite being officially exonerated by DNA evidence decades after a notorious 1989 rape case.
Defenders said they were coerced into confessing and all five were later cleared by DNA evidence and a separate confession in 2002 from another criminal who took credit for the assault.
New York paid them $41 million in a settlement in 2014 over their ordeal.
Trump took out a full-page ad at the time of the crime calling for New York to reinstate the death penalty in response.
The case was notable for its racial politics: Four of the Central Park Five were black and one was Latino while the victim was a white banker.
No conservative favors domestic violence.
Trump Eyes Accused Wife-Beater Rob Porter for a Late-Season Return
Trump’s History of Defending Men Accused of Hurting Women
‘It’s frustrating’: [Conservative] Women in Mo. bristle at Trump’s words on domestic violence, sexual abuse
No conservative wants illegal arms out there
I know this is not precisely the illegal arms you were referring to, but it's kind of hard to make the argument that the NRA cares about illegal arms when they appoint a convicted felon (later overturned by a friendly court) responsible for an illegal arms deal and subsequent cover-up as their new President, which Trump supported when he spoke at their conference:
NRA appoints Iran-Contra scandal figure Oliver North as president
While working on the National Security Council in the 1980s, North was involved in an international scandal in which the US sold arms to Iran and funneled the proceeds to the Contras, who were seeking to overthrow the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua.
Selling weapons to Iran was "in contravention of stated US policy and in possible violation of arms-export controls," according to a report at the time.
A court convicted North on three felony counts of ordering the destruction of documents, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and accepting an illegal gratuity. All three convictions were subsequently overturned.
There were reports that Contras sent the planes that had been used to ship them weapons back to the United States filled with cocaine. Indeed, the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and the FBI were aware that individuals involved in the attempted overthrow of the Sandinista government were also involved in the drug trade.
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President Donald Trump gave a speech at the NRA's annual meeting last week, and rejected calls for tighter regulations. He echoed the gun lobby's assertion that armed citizens will help prevent deadly shootings and drew heated criticism when he mimicked the shooters in Paris in 2015.
The Big Problem with President Trump's Record Arms Deal with Saudi Arabia
Much of that military hardware will likely be pressed into service in the Saudi fight against its neighbor Yemen, where more than 10,000 people have been killed over more than two years of heavy airstrikes and fighting.
This puts the U.S. in a precarious ethical position, say human rights groups and former U.S. officials. The Saudi-led airstrike campaign has hit numerous schools, hospitals, factories, and other civilian targets, leading to well-documented allegations of war crimes by human rights organizations. The war has also pushed much of the country to the brink of starvation, with more than 17 million people facing famine, according to the U.N.
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The weapons deal has also raised legal questions. In a legal opinion sent to the U.S. Senate on May 19, the American Bar Association’s Human Rights Center argued that continued arms sales are illegal under American laws that ban sales to states that violate international law.
no conservative wants a war solely for economic purposes.
Trump's plan to seize Iraq's oil: 'It's not stealing, we're reimbursing ourselves' Strategy of taking oil in Iraq and from areas controlled by Isis presents huge issues from almost every angle and ‘would amount to a war crime’, experts say
Trump Wants to Steal Middle East Oil, and He’s Not Alone - “Take the oil” isn’t just an applause line — it’s a policy that has been discussed in Washington for decades.
This is outright, one sided, propaganda, which not only shills for one side of the political spectrum, it demonizes the other.
Maybe the show wouldn't have to be so one-sided and overt in its advocacy if the other side hadn't completely abdicated its responsibility to truth, justice, and the idealized American Way (even if we don't always live up to those values) in favor of winning at all costs and supporting one's party, policies, and politicians no matter what it does wrong (see Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Don Blankenship, et al.)
It also isn't dumbing down to stay clear of politics on a superhero show.
As others have demonstrated,
Superman didn't shy away from the political issues of the time.
Arrow's first season was a pretty overt commentary on the 1% / 99% divide and the crimes of the former, coming out of the recent Great Recession. There are countless other examples.
They are taking their own political agenda, and wrongfully inserting it into the show. Almost every Alex plot line for example, has no relevance to the story as a whole, and has no place on a superhero show, like Alex's whole romance story last season. We get it, she was gay. Who cares?
Apparently you care. And a bunch of other people who made a huge stink over the mere existence of gay people having a relationship just like straight characters have done since the dawn of television. But suddenly when a gay person does it, it's "political" and part of an "agenda". If you actually stopped caring about it like you claim you have, it wouldn't be any more of an issue than any other character's relationship, regardless of their sexual orientation.
They also have blatantly insulted Trump and any conservative supporters.
I'd argue that Trump and those who continue to support him in spite of all that he has done insult themselves and compromise the values they claimed to support before he came along, but are willing to throw aside at the drop of a MAGA hat from the stage now.
I don't want to be lectured on guns or whatever outrage of the week the writers are feeling.
Maybe if it seemed like Republican politicians cared more about the loss of schoolchildren and workers and club and concert attendees in mass shootings (or shootings in general) than they did about the loss of any of their precious guns (or even favored stricter regulation on those guns) the writers and the public wouldn't have so much to feel outraged about.
Oh, and by the way, about the only thing fantastical about the episode's gun whining was the idea that taking guns away from cops is a good thing. Only in a fictional world will that work.
Fictional like Britain? We have two British police officers on this board (
Hugo and
cultcross) who patrol a beat daily without carrying firearms, and wish to keep it that way judging by their repeated statements on the matter in gun debates. The British police do have armed response officers who are dispatched for active shooter and terrorist situations, but the day-to-day patrol officers don't carry them and that seems to be a working system.
Are these all fictional countries too?
5 countries where most police officers do not carry firearms — and it works well
In What Countries Do Police Not Carry Guns?
Now I'm not saying the US should immediately make that transition until there have been drastic measures taken to reduce firearms possession by the public as well.
I'm sure I'm just wasting my time posting all of this, because you'll probably ignore it or dismiss it out of hand, but I'm recovering from being in the emergency room last night and this morning, so I have plenty of time to waste at the moment. But before you reject all of this as liberal media bias or fake news (I quoted many sources, not all left-leaning, and they are repeatedly sourced themselves and often just taking direct quotes from the conservative politicians they're writing about) I urge you to actually look at the substance, because I'm hoping there are still conservatives out there who do stand for these values besides the few who have spoken up.
And you need not launch into any "whatabout..." strings on Bill Clinton (sexually harassing cheating scumbag among many other things), Barack Obama (I criticized his drone campaign and strict immigration policies too), Hillary Clinton (warhawk with questionable ethics, though not even on the same scale as Trump) or Democratic politicians accused of corruption or sexual misconduct (like Al Franken), because I called for the latter all to be removed from office too. So just stick to the facts at hand instead of trying to distract.
