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That timeline refers to the park on an island, but I don't think that has been definitively established on the show (but I could be wrong). However, it also says the bodies of the hosts were found in a sea, but it's been described on the show multiple times as a lake.
 
That timeline refers to the park on an island, but I don't think that has been definitively established on the show (but I could be wrong). However, it also says the bodies of the hosts were found in a sea, but it's been described on the show multiple times as a lake.

I don't think anything about the location is definite, but Strand called it that in talking to the Chinese-speaking military guy in the first episode this season ("Journey Into Night"):

STRAND: See this? It's an official statement executed by your country giving Delos, and consequently me, authority over this entire island.

Likewise, at the end of the same episode Stubbs calls the body of water a sea - specifically, "That's a fucking sea." So it may also have been referred to as a lake, but Stubbs' line is probably where the chart maker picked up "sea."

(I can't find a usage of the word "lake" in the on-line transcripts that I know of other than to "Snow Lake," Sakura's home).
 
Well, it looks to me like the transcripts are being formatted from captioning documents - so they may not be 100% accurate to the audio (to put it mildly).
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. Overall, I don't find the writing to be as good as it was in the first season. There are only a handful of episodes this season that I'd consider great so far, and given how they've written some of the characters like Maeve, I'm unsure how long they could stretch this series out for.
It would be nice if there were one or two sympathetic characters to latch onto. In the first season, it was a thoughtful SF treatise, but season two is more like a spaghetti Western. :rommie:
 
That timeline refers to the park on an island, but I don't think that has been definitively established on the show (but I could be wrong). However, it also says the bodies of the hosts were found in a sea, but it's been described on the show multiple times as a lake.
Stubbs' comment came off to me like an exaggeration to express how unusually large the body of water was for the island, not that it was literally a sea. It's still a lake, just a big one, in terms of the island's geography.
 
That's as reasonable a possibility as anything else. It's generally a mistake to take character dialogue too literally, at least if a story is well-written.

Online discussion about the body of water in question usually refers to it as a lake. Is anything mentioned specifically about it in Season One, when Ford is doing all his terraforming?

I'm starting to wonder if some of the characters we're seeing in "present time" are really themselves. Bernard goes into the CR4-DL, but who comes out?

I'm not 100 percent sure about Elsie, although that would be a stretch - as would Ashley.

For all the speculation about Delos - or Ford - substituting Host doppelgangers for real people, the only Host I can remember who has passed as a human among humans for any considerable length of time is Bernard - and he never was intended or required to carry off a ruse as Arnold to anyone who had met Arnold.

There's a bit of dialogue from "The Stray" that gets talked about a lot on other boards, in this context - the claim that Wyatt:

...Forces his men to wear the bones and flesh of their enemies. They're masks.
It's the men underneath them to be afraid of. Wyatt's got them so twisted around, they'll do anything for him. Kill anyone. Pain don't slow them. They don't fear death. They reckon they've already died and gone to hell.

The Hosts have been talked about or have talked about themselves in almost exactly those terms on a number of occasions, including the assertion (by Arnold) that the park would be Hell for the likes of Delores.

But then, it's metaphorical dialogue - not literal.
 
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Well...a few people have had something to say about Maeve.

Still, ERW is right. She pretty much nails it.

I suppose DeloresWyatt's "emasculation of Teddy" hasn't poured oil on those anxious waters.
 
It would be nice if there were one or two sympathetic characters to latch onto. In the first season, it was a thoughtful SF treatise, but season two is more like a spaghetti Western. :rommie:

Yep, true enough. I was trying put a finger on why I felt it was different, but I think you're spot on. Not nearly as compelling IMHO.
 
I was having my doubts about the season up until "Riddle of The Sphinx." Since then, I'm enjoying it - including looking back at the first three. It's not the same show it was last season, and it's a quite a bit more conventional and maybe less intriguing in that respect.

In terms of people to sympathize with? Oh, just about everyone except maybe the assholes Delos apparently is sending in waves to have their heads blown off. Looks like next week BernArnold may go postal...or is that "Host-al?" ;)

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And maybe here's a clue as to why Charlotte Hale's last interaction with Bernard was so odd ("What about you, Bernard? Do you have any idea where Peter Abernathy might have gone? He seems to keep slipping away from us"): seems she made a discovery, and the question is when in the timeline she made it:

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Quite a bit of possible foreshadowing going on here - hide in plain sight?
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Courtesy, Reddit.

Teddy's stated mission in "The Stray?"

He's not a man, but he's not the devil either. The devil can't be killed. That's exactly what I aim to do to Wyatt.
 
Well, that was pretty marvelous.

I expect that when this series ends the last and only human being alive on Earth will be...Elsie.
 
Not surprisingly Anthony Hopkins back in the opening credits.

Did old William/MiB survive? Seems like it based on the last scene that showed him. I hope so since Ed Harris is really great in this show.

My favorite host Angela is gorgeous and badass. She may indeed be perfect.
 
It turns out that I was wrong about the Dolores/Bernard stuff being a flashforward.

The destruction of the Cradle means that if the Hosts die, they're dead for realsies, so R.I.P. Angela, Maeve, and Teddy.
 
The destruction of the Cradle means that if the Hosts die, they're dead for realsies, so R.I.P. Angela, Maeve, and Teddy.

Maeve isn't dead yet. My bet is that she will be fixed up in the next episode. Teddy isn't dead either; he was just altered and could probably be restored even without the Cradle.
 
Maeve isn't dead yet. My bet is that she will be fixed up in the next episode. Teddy isn't dead either; he was just altered and could probably be restored even without the Cradle.

Maeve was minutes to seconds from death when Dolores and Co. found her, and both of them knew it, which is why Dolores offered to put her out of her misery.

And Teddy is dead in the present along with pretty much every other Host thanks to Bernard drowning them all.it
 
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