Africa is shown very briefly on screen in The Cage, a lush green Saharan garden city, but only in flashback/illusion.
Things you wished were mention in Trek novels
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Saharan??? The city is called Mojave. The Mojave Desert is mostly in Nevada and California. It's named for an indigenous people of the Colorado River region.
I’ve totally misrembered my Trek there.
Never admit to that round these parts. It’s better to claim you have misremembered your geography instead.
Yup.
I love that bit.
I’m telling you...Tuvok, Neelix on a visit, and Deanna....greasy kebab with chilli sauce. It must be done.
The problem is, replicators mean he has....but...the variance in chilli sauce can vary greatly even on one road...
In fact I think it’s probably like latinum and is totally unreplicatable.
Goodness knows, I have never found one to match my favourite from the King Kebabs, whitecross, circa 1996. I would also like chips with sweet and sour sauce, circa the Hoxton chippie, same year, if anyone’s got contacts. Neelix would love it.
Cheers! Back when I used to write for Star Trek Monthly, I chatted to Marina Sirtis once when she was guesting on Voyager, and we ended up talking about a particular chip shop that we both knew in Turnpike Lane...
Didn't the prologue to one of the post-Destiny TNG novels have Geordi visiting family in the United States of Africa? I seem to remember it's him watching his niece or nephew playing soccer/football. I want to say it was Indistinguishable From Magic, but I'm not sure.
Edit: Just dug it up. It was Losing the Peace. His niece, Nadifa, plays soccer for the Zefram Cochrane High School "Flyers," in Mogadishu in the African Confederation.
I would love to read a scene where during WW3 the rich folks fled London and left Knightsbridge, Chelsea, Hampstead, Westminster and Sloane Square and they became derelict areas. All those empty mansions were turned into social housing.
Would be a reversal of real London after WW2 lol
Southerners boarded the newish high speed rail links and flee to Scotland, poor Scotland had to deal with English refugees fleeing the capital.
Africa and South America deal with an influx of Americans/Europe fleeing devastation of the cities. The people of the former developing world attempt to turn away the ships and ferries fleeing Europe. The Mexican border and the Trump wall is blown to smithereens out of desperation to escape the carnage.
Would make a great novel!
Would be a reversal of real London after WW2 lol
Southerners boarded the newish high speed rail links and flee to Scotland, poor Scotland had to deal with English refugees fleeing the capital.
Africa and South America deal with an influx of Americans/Europe fleeing devastation of the cities. The people of the former developing world attempt to turn away the ships and ferries fleeing Europe. The Mexican border and the Trump wall is blown to smithereens out of desperation to escape the carnage.
Would make a great novel!
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That’s not Africa. It’s Mojave (i.e. the former Mojave Desert).
By grandfather, were you referring to Deanna’s father (Natasha’s grandfather) or Deanna’s grandfather? Since I never got in the series that Ian Troi was from the UK, as the actor in “Dark Page” was very American—-so American that you really have to wonder just where did Deanna get her accent and just why Lwaxana’s previous servant was trying so hard to change it.
Not to mention that Deanna's original accent was sort of an English-Greek hybrid and later evolved into more of a straight RP.
Has someone said, an explanation for how a moneyless society works, yet?
Since money didn't go away until "the late 22nd century" according to VOY: "Dark Frontier", I'd love to see the NX-01 crew discuss their Starfleet pay.
I've also had this weird need to read about our heroes stuck in traffic on Earth ever since the Kelvin movies showed us that there are still wheeled vehicles in use. The last episode of Disco took the Kelvin Earth look and transplanted it into the Prime Universe, so my dream scenario can actually come true.
Since money didn't go away until "the late 22nd century" according to VOY: "Dark Frontier", I'd love to see the NX-01 crew discuss their Starfleet pay.
I've also had this weird need to read about our heroes stuck in traffic on Earth ever since the Kelvin movies showed us that there are still wheeled vehicles in use. The last episode of Disco took the Kelvin Earth look and transplanted it into the Prime Universe, so my dream scenario can actually come true.
I was referring to Ian Troi, Deanna's dad, yes. Keith DeCandido's The Art of the Impossible establishes that he was born in London and spent at least some of his childhood there...but he may have grown up somewhere else, so I guess you could explain the accent away like that. I also added some more detail to the Troi family backstory by noting that some of them lived in East Anglia in earlier generations.
Sadly, Star Trek has always been a bit poor about regional-specific accents for characters, but you just have to roll with it... I mean, there's that French guy on the Enterprise who sounds like a Yorkshireman doing a whole Shakespearean thing...
That really shouldn't be a problem if he grew up bilingual. There are plenty of Latin Americans in the US who can speak American English with a flawless accent and then flip on a dime to speak Spanish with a flawless accent, even in the same sentence, e.g. when referring to or addressing someone with a Hispanic name. Fiction conditions us to expect foreigners speaking English to speak it with an accent, but that's a dramatic conceit, a shorthand to convey foreignness. People who are really good at speaking a foreign language can often speak it with little or no accent, and people who grew up speaking two languages from childhood should be able to speak both without an accent. (It's no different from, say, a British actor's ability to speak RP on screen and then revert to their native Yorkshire or Cockney or Scottish or whatever when the cameras go off.)
So since Picard comes from a united Europe in a civilization whose universal language is English, it makes perfect sense that he would've learned English and French simultaneously and could thus speak both languages with no trace of an accent (assuming he learned the British version of English, which makes sense for a European). So Picard's English accent when speaking English is not the problem. The only way there's a problem is if he speaks French with an English accent. I've always found it ironic that Jonathan Frakes pronounced "Jean-Luc Picard" with more of a French accent than Patrick Stewart did.
I think the Doctor Who episode Journey's End featured a German woman who spoke English with a German accent and German with an English accent, which I found quite funny.
Well, there was also that Doctor fellow who had a northern English accent. But he asserted that there was north in space, too...
Heh. That guy sounded Scottish for a while, too...and now I hear she's got a Yorkshire accent...
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