Mirror Broken Sequel/Prime Universe TNG Crossover Coming In May

[Enterprise1701]

Well Mirror Broken #1 came out last week. An somewhat predictable start, but it could yet get interesting.

This series is evidently in continuity with Star Trek: The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation[sup]2[/sup], as it revisits Naia VII and an editor's note references that series.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Issue #2 is out today.

Wow, now I realize how the comic has continuity with previous IDW miniseries. The Tiptons also wrote Assimilation2. And they continued that in this issue by following one of their previous IDW stories that depicted the Andorian Imperial Guard operating Andorian-style starships in the TNG era.

 

[Eduardo]

Wow, now I realize how the comic has continuity with previous IDW miniseries. The Tiptons also wrote Assimilation2. And they continued that in this issue by following one of their previous IDW stories that depicted the Andorian Imperial Guard operating Andorian-style starships in the TNG era.

I have been trying to find what story you are refering too, but I can't recall any featuring Andorians written by the Tiptons in the TNG era (checked Intelligence Gathering (it has one andorian), DS9 Fool's Gold and just in case Spock Reflections and the special Flesh & Stone). There was an Alien Spotlight on them in the TNG era, but it was from another writer (Storrie) and didn't feature any andorian starships.

Edit: I do wonder if they will include a reference to the Mirror Images mini in the backup story, or the ISS Starbreaker interlude killed any chance of that.

Or connect how the Mirror crew crossed over with those never explained (IIRC) devices that allowed starships to cross into the Planet of the Apes universe.

 

[Christopher]

Maybe the reference is to Burden of Knowledge, which was by the Tiptons and whose third issue showed ENT-era Tellarite and Andorian ships still in use in the TOS era (though the Andorian ships were seen only on the cover and in one panel inside).

 

[Tomalak]

Is it wrong that I got annoyed on page one because Worf is a commander rather than a lieutenant, and they're using the wrong phasers?

Thanks for the heads up - just read part one. What I liked about Mirror Broken was that it was a pure Mirror story with no crossover, so it'll be interesting to see how this develops.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I have been trying to find what story you are refering too, but I can't recall any featuring Andorians written by the Tiptons in the TNG era (checked Intelligence Gathering (it has one andorian), DS9 Fool's Gold and just in case Spock Reflections and the special Flesh & Stone). There was an Alien Spotlight on them in the TNG era, but it was from another writer (Storrie) and didn't feature any andorian starships.

Maybe the reference is to Burden of Knowledge, which was by the Tiptons and whose third issue showed ENT-era Tellarite and Andorian ships still in use in the TOS era (though the Andorian ships were seen only on the cover and in one panel inside).

Ah, that's the one I was thinking of. Burden of Knowledge #3.

 

[Rhodan]

Well, it purports to be, but its pretense that Earth somehow survived is quite a retcon. I mean, sure, Constantinople survived as the capital of the Byzantine Empire long after the rest of the empire was gone, but when an enemy wanted to wipe out the empire for good, they conquered the capital and it became Istanbul. So it's hard to believe that the Alliance conquered the whole Terran Empire but somehow forgot to conquer the planet it was named after.

Alliance didn´t get the memo of Emperor Georgiou that you must attack the center :-).

Anyway, this is what, like the third version of Mirror Picard?

EDIT: Maybe even the fourth one.

 

[Tuskin38]

New issue out, this is getting interesting

 

[Tim Thomason]

Alliance didn´t get the memo of Emperor Georgiou that you must attack the center :-).

Anyway, this is what, like the third version of Mirror Picard?

EDIT: Maybe even the fourth one.

MB has six different, incompatible MU Picards. Dark Mirror, Shatnerverse (working with the KCA), regular Novelverse (working with the Rebellion), Mirror Images comic (different backstory), a different permutation in Q&A (aboard the ISS Enterprise-E with mirror Lore), and now Mirror Broken.

 

[Rhodan]

MB has six different, incompatible MU Picards. Dark Mirror, Shatnerverse (working with the KCA), regular Novelverse (working with the Rebellion), Mirror Images comic (different backstory), a different permutation in Q&A (aboard the ISS Enterprise-E with mirror Lore), and now Mirror Broken.

Long and terrible conflict, which only direct participation of Patrick Stewart can resolve.

 

[thribs]

MB has six different, incompatible MU Picards. Dark Mirror, Shatnerverse (working with the KCA), regular Novelverse (working with the Rebellion), Mirror Images comic (different backstory), a different permutation in Q&A (aboard the ISS Enterprise-E with mirror Lore), and now Mirror Broken.

If there can be alternate universes that are similar with the Prime universe it stands to reason the same is true with the boring Mirror one.

 

[Tim Thomason]

If there can be alternate universes that are similar with the Prime universe it stands to reason the same is true with the boring Mirror one.

I agree? Rhodan was asking how many Mirror Picards there were, and I provided an answer. It'll never happen, but I would like to see a "Mirror War" confrontation between the Dark Mirror folks and the canonic-ish Crossover types (and toss in other incarnations while at it).

Q&A specifically showed us that multiple Mirror universes exist, in the novel continuity, as seen by Prime characters. Although it predates the modern novel line, Dark Mirror could still fit with the novel continuity. And there are loose ties to the Shatnerverse that could mean its version of the Mirror universe has also been encountered. That's upwards of four Mirror Picards in one continuity with each other (although in different universes).

 

[Christopher]

Although it predates the modern novel line, Dark Mirror could still fit with the novel continuity.

Not with screen continuity, though. DM postulated a law of physics by which any large amount of matter (say, a starship) from one universe remaining in another for any length of time would cause a cataclysmic release of energy that would devastate much of the galaxy. The events of "In a Mirror, Darkly" prove that's not the case in the canonical Trek universe.

 

[Enterprise1701]

If you think about it, Dark Mirror depicts a rather unrealistic view in that the Terran Empire steamrolled the entire galaxy, Gamma and Delta included. Sure this was before canon introduced the Dominion and the Borg, but that's why I don't take the Dark Mirror view of the MU geopolitics so seriously.

New issue out, this is getting interesting

How is it that these issues keep coming out every week? IDW is never this fast, let alone that most U.S.-based comic series are published on a monthly schedule.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Not with screen continuity, though. DM postulated a law of physics by which any large amount of matter (say, a starship) from one universe remaining in another for any length of time would cause a cataclysmic release of energy that would devastate much of the galaxy. The events of "In a Mirror, Darkly" prove that's not the case in the canonical Trek universe.

Hmm... maybe the Tholians figured out a fix for that. Or maybe that's how Interphase works, by transitioning large bulk matter to fit with the "quantum signature" of another universe. Wouldn't explain Discovery though, although we could postulate that the spore drive acts as an interphase between universes or something.

I'm not good at crazy physics explanations for even crazier sci-fi gobbledygook.

 

[Tuskin38]

How is it that these issues keep coming out every week? IDW is never this fast, let alone that most U.S.-based comic series are published on a monthly schedule.

I'm guessing they made them along side the last mirror arc.

DM postulated a law of physics by which any large amount of matter (say, a starship) from one universe remaining in another for any length of time would cause a cataclysmic release of energy that would devastate much of the galaxy.

I think SG-1 did that as well, except it was only harmful to the people who crossed over or something.

Been a while since I seen the episode.

 

[Christopher]

If you think about it, Dark Mirror depicts a rather unrealistic view in that the Terran Empire steamrolled the entire galaxy, Gamma and Delta included. Sure this was before canon introduced the Dominion and the Borg, but that's why I don't take the Dark Mirror view of the MU geopolitics so seriously.

It never said that. Neither quadrant is mentioned by name. Rather, Duane was operating from an erroneous idea about galactic structure, namely that the gaps between the galactic arms were starless voids. (In fact, the arms are just pressure waves rotating through the interstellar medium, concentrations of nebulae and star-formation zones; the stars' population density within the arms is only about 10% higher than in the gaps between the arms, mainly because there are more newborn stars in the arms.) So what she posited was that the Empire had reached the edges of the Sagittarius Arm (which she seems to have mistaken for the Orion Spur containing Sol and the Federation) and was stuck, unable to expand further, because the other arms were too far away and there was supposedly nothing in between.

Hmm... maybe the Tholians figured out a fix for that.

The Tholians didn't cause the interphase. It was a natural phenomenon on the border of their space. Loskene didn't even seem to know about the phenomenon, since Spock had to explain how they could be conducting rescue operations when there was no other ship in the vicinity, and the Tholians later attacked with no apparent awareness of the risk of destabilizing the interphase space further.

Wouldn't explain Discovery though, although we could postulate that the spore drive acts as an interphase between universes or something.

Discovery was only in the MU for a shade over a week, by my estimates. The destructive phenomenon described in DM would've taken effect gradually, years to decades later.

 

[JD]

I agree? Rhodan was asking how many Mirror Picards there were, and I provided an answer. It'll never happen, but I would like to see a "Mirror War" confrontation between the Dark Mirror folks and the canonic-ish Crossover types (and toss in other incarnations while at it).

Q&A specifically showed us that multiple Mirror universes exist, in the novel continuity, as seen by Prime characters. Although it predates the modern novel line, Dark Mirror could still fit with the novel continuity. And there are loose ties to the Shatnerverse that could mean its version of the Mirror universe has also been encountered. That's upwards of four Mirror Picards in one continuity with each other (although in different universes).

We also so a Mirror Sisko who was from a universe with a Terran Empire in one of the later DS9R books. I've been wondering since that and Q&A came out if that Sisko and Picard were from the same alternate MU.

 

[Tuskin38]

We also so a Mirror Sisko who was from a universe with a Terran Empire in one of the later DS9R books.

That was an interesting scene, because it showed that in the novel'verse at least, the Prophets are also trans-dimensional.

Also one of the Siskos was assimilated, how the heck does that work. Is he an individual while in the temple?

 

[Enterprise1701]

Also one of the Siskos was assimilated, how the heck does that work. Is he an individual while in the temple?

Ha, yet another reason I dislike the whole Prophets concept in general. So almighty they refuse to lend help except in the most ridiculous of times for the most ridiculous and incomprehensible of goals. "Oh, we can cause a humanoid to be born but we won't stop his civilization from being absolutely conquered! It's great that people worship us!"