CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[Campe]

At its lowest point, Star Trek had 2.53 million viewers (Enterprise - “Babel One” airing in January 2005). The highest number of viewers of a fan film (of my knowledge, please correct me if I’m wrong) is Star Trek: Horizon released in February 2016 with over 8 million views. The original Prelude to Axanar video, released in August 2014, has 3.4 million views. Note that the numbers for the fan films are not unique views, just views. That Prelude has 3.4 million views does not mean its more popular than official Trek. It means, at its lowest point when you are just down to the core audience, Enterprise was able to gain a significant percentage on ONE NIGHT that Alec Peters managed to draw in over FOUR YEARS. I also don’t think the era has anything to do with it. I think it’s just a matter of telling a good Star Trek story.

 

[Valenti]

Yes, especially all the action scenes.

Your right. I don't like Axanar either but I would rather watch it than what's currently at the bottom of their expensive barrels on tv and in the movies any day of the week.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Your right. I don't like Axanar either but I would rather watch it than what's currently at the bottom of their expensive barrels on tv and in the movies any day of the week.

Why????

 

[Firebird]

Your right. I don't like Axanar either but I would rather watch it than what's currently at the bottom of their expensive barrels on tv and in the movies any day of the week.

This makes absolutely no sense, and also I don't think you got what fireproof78 was trying to say.

 

[Campe]

Your right. I don't like Axanar either but I would rather watch it than what's currently at the bottom of their expensive barrels on tv and in the movies any day of the week.

So, you don’t like Axanar but you defend it? I’m very confused.

 

[Valenti]

Why????

It's sensabilities are more in line with Trek's standards for me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's sensabilities are more in line with Trek's standards for me.

Which sensibilities are those?

 

[Valenti]

More philosophy, story, better pacing and look, more objective POVs, bigger canvas and potentially more dramatic.

 

[Nerys Myk]

More philosophy, story, better pacing and look, more objective POVs, bigger canvas and potentially more dramatic.

How much of "Axanar" have you seen?

 

[Valenti]

Not all of it but enough to make those observations. What I don't like of course is the war story, which I think GR would probably disapprove of and diminish/eliminate after a while.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Not all of it but enough to make those observations. What I don't like of course is the war story, which I think GR would probably disapprove of and diminish/eliminate after a while.

Is that the main focus? It's a war story.

 

[Valenti]

Well we really don't know what it is or was going to be after the prelude but it looked interesting.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Not all of it but enough to make those observations. What I don't like of course is the war story, which I think GR would probably disapprove of and diminish/eliminate after a while.

So... you couldn't finish Prelude to Axanar...?

 

[Valenti]

Well it's not finished yet, is it. I didn't donate to it though. Like Mathiew Raymond said, he raised up over a million bucks, he must have been offering something someone wanted to see.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well it's not finished yet, is it. I didn't donate to it though. Like Mathiew Raymond said, he raised up over a million bucks, he must have been offering something someone wanted to see.

Prelude is.

 

[dmac]

So... you couldn't finish Prelude to Axanar...?

Is it possible to complete a PRELUDE by continuing the plot?

 

[F. King Daniel]

I think Axanar garnered so much money was because it had some semblance to TOS.

You do know Axanar took most of their ship designs from the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, right? Because I don't think you liked the look of those.

 

[KennyB]

Talking heads and a VFX sizzle reel from Tobias.........hardly groundbreaking stuff. I enjoyed it for what it was when it came out, and wouldn't have minded seeing the final product. But when Tony Todd left and Alec started slamming him and the rest of the truth came out I quickly lost interest. It never was more than a glorified fanfilm with lots of pew pew........far from visionary. Hell MASH did the concept in the 1975 episode "The Interview" and I'm sure they weren't the first.

 

[urbandefault]

How much of "Axanar" have you seen?

Not all of it but enough to make those observations. What I don't like of course is the war story, which I think GR would probably disapprove of and diminish/eliminate after a while.

Well it's not finished yet, is it. I didn't donate to it though. Like Mathiew Raymond said, he raised up over a million bucks, he must have been offering something someone wanted to see.

Of course it isn't finished, and it never will be. There's no money, no studio, one unfinished set, some costumes (maybe) and a bunch of patches.

The only film there is of Axanar: The Smoke Lingers is a walk & talk and some CGI shots.

 

[Campe]

Well it's not finished yet, is it. I didn't donate to it though. Like Mathiew Raymond said, he raised up over a million bucks, he must have been offering something someone wanted to see.

With that logic, CBS has over 5 million subscribers (between CBS All Access and Showtime OTT) so they must be offering something someone wanted to see. Paramount’s Star Trek Beyond made $343.5 million at the box office. They too must have been offering something someone wanted to see.

I get that Axanar has its passionate fans. And for what Prelude is (a 20 minute sizzle reel with a good cast, great SFX for its budget and a very fanboyish war storyline that other than the mockumentary format doesn’t break new ground), it does fine. But that Alec made poor decisions and treated fans with questions like garbage really tarnishes it for me. And a lot of the people here.