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How do you rate "Avengers: Infinity War"?


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I just got back from seeing it and gave it a solid B +. I felt there was some pacing issues, sketchy CGI and I think I'm a bit worn out from the hype that maybe i didn't enjoy it as much as i thought i would. Overall it is a solid movie and kudos needs to be given to the Russo Brothers for being able to handle so many characters and give each one a moment or a few to shine. DC seriously need to take notes. In terms of characters, Thanos was the real stand out for me, it really is his movie and he is probably one of the greatest villains ever put to film. He's complicated and multi-faceted and it's very easy to see his point of view and sympathise with what he is doing and why. But yeah, this movie is brutal, takes risks and the ending is something else. I don't know how earths mightiest heroes are going to get out of this pickle.
 
Thor: Ragnarok's humorous tone seems odd now when you look at the start of this movie. Odin's little speech about Asgard being the people not the place that also triggered Thor's ability to channel his lightning without the hammer is quickly made redundant. All of Asgard is gone now bar Thor (I assume Valkyrie died in that attack).

Also Korg :(
 
Thor: Ragnarok's humorous tone seems odd now when you look at the start of this movie. Odin's little speech about Asgard being the people not the place that also triggered Thor's ability to channel his lightning without the hammer is quickly made redundant. All of Asgard is gone now bar Thor (I assume Valkyrie died in that attack).

Also Korg :(

Thor said Thanos killed half his people, not all of them. Presumably some survived somewhere, quite probably including Valkyrie and Korg.
 
Just saw it. Really enjoyed it an awful lot of fun.
But the ending... (I'll use spoiler code just in case)

And these are BIG SPOILERS folks, if you haven't seen it don't click and blame me..

Oh wow, so I guess there won't be a Black Panther 2 then. Or a Spidey Homecoming 2, or a Doctor Strange 2, or a Guardians 3 as there's only Rocket even left....
Orrrrrrrr.... it's fairly pointless as they'll obviously all come back. I get that for the survivors it would have felt awful, but for me as a viewer- sorry I just didn't couldn't feel it. Didn't work for me when you know it'll all be undone.

Disappointed by the 100% lack of Ant-Man and Hawkeye too. I know they wouldn't have added much to the plot, but neither did the likes or Falcoln or War Machine, like at all. They were just there. So don't see why A & H couldn't be. I know they reference their absense with a fairly logical reason, but just saying.
 
Wondering about Ant-Man movie now. Will it be set some time before Infinity War or will they follow right from here? I guess the easiest way would be to set it right after Civil War. Kind of hard to do a stand-alone movie about Ant-Man with the world being what it is after Infinity War.
 
Wondering about Ant-Man movie now. Will it be set some time before Infinity War or will they follow right from here? I guess the easiest way would be to set it right after Civil War. Kind of hard to do a stand-alone movie about Ant-Man with the world being what it is after Infinity War.

Ant Man and The Wasp is supposed to be set before the events of Infinity War.

Just saw it. Really enjoyed it an awful lot of fun.
But the ending... (I'll use spoiler code just in case)
And these are BIG SPOILERS folks, if you haven't seen it don't click and blame me..

Oh wow, so I guess there won't be a Black Panther 2 then. Or a Spidey Homecoming 2, or a Doctor Strange 2, or a Guardians 3 as there's only Rocket even left....
Orrrrrrrr.... it's fairly pointless as they'll obviously all come back. I get that for the survivors it would have felt awful, but for me as a viewer- sorry I just didn't couldn't feel it. Didn't work for me when you know it'll all be undone.
Disappointed by the 100% lack of Ant-Man and Hawkeye too. I know they wouldn't have added much to the plot, but neither did the likes or Falcoln or War Machine, like at all. They were just there. So don't see why A & H couldn't be. I know they reference their absense with a fairly logical reason, but just saying.

There's a Spider-Man sequel in production, and allegedly, a Black Panther sequel.
Regarding the Falcon, well, he's forever tied to Steve Rogers, so there's no way he was not going to have a place in this film.
 
There's a Spider-Man sequel in production, and allegedly, a Black Panther sequel.
? Not quite sure what you mean there. I was been sarcastic, obviously the sequels are still happening. Hence why their "deaths" didn't have much weight to them for me
 
I thought it was brilliant and I personally had a tear or two roll down my cheek at certain points.
 
Saw it tonight, really enjoyed the movie although I watched the 3D version I found that distracting, next time watch it regular ole 2D 9/10.
I wanted to shout cut his bloody head off!
 
? Not quite sure what you mean there. I was been sarcastic, obviously the sequels are still happening. Hence why their "deaths" didn't have much weight to them for me

I think you brought up an interesting point: if the "dead" are revived in A4, that pretty much hammers the idea that there's no real threat to characters of a certain level, which robs stories of real drama.[/spoilers]
 
I have not watched the film. I have read the synopsis. I understand this kind of thing happens quite frequently in the comic books. Do you think they will follow the examples of the comics in resolving this situation?
 
I think you brought up an interesting point: if the "dead" are revived in A4, that pretty much hammers the idea that there's no real threat to characters of a certain level, which robs stories of real drama.[/spoilers]

Disagree. I think:
You're half right. By end of Avengers 4, characters will reverse... the survivors will be sacrificed and the current dead ones will return
 
"Come on, man, you're embarrassing me in front of the wizards."

I'm not doing spoiler code in a spoiler thread. You've been warned. Seriously, what are you even doing in this thread if you don't want to be spoiled? And believe me, you really should go into this film unspoiled!

Infinity War is genuinely surprising and so much damn fun. Hilarious and devastating. Ambitious and heart-breaking. And lives up to the hype.

So many wonderful character moments and interactions, particularly anything with Iron Man, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Thor, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Gamora, and Star-Lord. Everyone had a moment to shine, but those characters shined especially well. I love how four of the biggest egos in the galaxy all wounded up on Titan together. :lol:

Thanos in particular was well-fleshed out and ranks among the MCU's best villains, alongside Killmonger, Adrian Tomes, and Loki. As much as I loved his attempts to woo Lady Death in the comics, I think the Russo brothers made the right choice to change his motivations to believing that the universe needs to be culled in order to survive. A mad notion for certain, but it is an understandable one from his perspective. With that perspective in mind, his motivation to collect the Infinity Stones becomes clear, even admirable in a mad sense.

I'm amused how amongst all of the speculation I've seen on this forum and the plethora of articles I've read, no one came close to accurately guessing where the Soul Stone was and what form it took (mind you, somebody might have guessed it correctly but I didn't see it and I read a lot of speculation). I like how the acquirement of the Soul Stone was different from the other five and that it came at a price. I'm a little surprised how long it took Gamora to figure out what was going to happen, but I did appreciate how that scene gave Thanos a certain amount of depth. Up to that moment, I wasn't entirely sure if he genuinely cared for her.

As soon as I heard the voice coming from the cloaked figure, I immediately recognized the voice as Hugo Weaving. There's no disguising that uniquely silky voice. Nonetheless, I was still surprised it was actually Red Skull because I simply didn't think it would be him.

I love that Peter Dinklage played a giant, subverting expectations on the type of character he would play and what a dwarf king might look like (I don't know what Eitri looks like in the comics). The special effects for him were a bit dodgy, but I didn't care. I love me some Peter Dinklage!

The deaths: I was not shocked at all by Loki's death, but I was happy it was a hero's death, one that Thor almost avenged at the end. Heimdall's death wasn't surprising either considering the set-up at the end of Ragnarok. Weird how Valkyrie was nowhere to be seen, as well as Korg, but I hope they survived to see another day. Gamora's death was expected as soon as the nature of Soul Stone was revealed, but that didn't make it any less heartbreaking. I actually thought Tony was going to buy it for a second, but I'm not surprised he didn't considering he'll have to play an important role in the next film. Vision's death was especially heartbreaking because it happened twice. First by Wanda's forced hand and then again by Thanos when he restored the Mind Stone thanks to the Time Stone.

I'm thinking those deaths will actually remain permanent. Obviously, Thanos' 50% of the universe finger-snapping will be reversed and the plethora of characters we saw fade away will return. What I am curious about is how quickly will those deaths be reversed. I can't imagine so much of the next film will lack the likes of Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, and Star-Lord, but I could be wrong. I also wonder if we'll actually see Nebula briefly take hold of the Gauntlet as she did in the comics and she'll be the one to reverse the deaths.

Interesting how the trailer had several misleading moments that were either different or completely absent from the film: 1) Mantis' wave to Thor was on her own when Thor, Groot, and Rocket left the ship and not standing with the Guardians as a whole; 2) Spider-Man swinging through the wreckage on Titan omitted his spider legs and carrying Mantis; 3) Most notably, the group shot of many of hour heroes running into battle which included the Hulk did not happen, simply because the Hulk never emerged after Bruce returned to Earth. There may have been a few other moments but those were the ones that stood out the most to me.

I'm guessing that the lack of Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Valkyrie, as well as Wasp and Captain Marvel, are part of a deliberate set-up for the sequel. Much like in the comic mini-series, there is a moment where the surviving heroes are gathered together to attempt another attack on Thanos...although that will be rather difficult this time around considering it was Dr. Strange who did that. Perhaps that's something Captain Marvel will do instead?
 
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I'm trying to figure out how Ant-Man & The Wasp fits into these events. Captain Marvel, being in the 1990s, won't be affected by this (not withstanding flashforwards).

I enjoyed the CGI for Spider-Man, especially his movements swinging up and onto the spaceship. The only CGI that really didn't work for me was right at the end with Banner in the Hulkbuster armor - when the character was just standing there.
Also - some pacing issues in that when Strange was about to be tortured, he hadn't been onscreen so long that I completely forgot where we had left him. Perhaps the nature of having so many main characters.

I agree with Emh about the use of Dinklage in terms of subverting expectations.

I never through Weaving would return, so it was nice to see him back and finally answering that unresolved element from Captain America The First Avenger.
 
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