The Expanse Season 3
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"The Churn," the official podcast of the show (it's a little more wacky that RDM's on-line insta-commentaries for BSG,* but they always have at least one writer on, so it scratches the same itch) has talked about about how Errinwright's role has been expanded in the show both because they like the actor, and since the show has a less rigid point-of-view conceit than the books (I gather, I haven't read them), they have the option to spend more time outside of their viewpoint characters and show stuff that was only happening implicitly at the UN or wherever in the books.
*Excepting the ones where his wife was on and they spent half the episode busting each others' chops. Those are equally as wacky as The Churn.
*Excepting the ones where his wife was on and they spent half the episode busting each others' chops. Those are equally as wacky as The Churn.
Thanks for the link - time to give those pod casts a listen.
And will say - when it comes to putting up extra material like that for shows they broadcast, Space in Canada is mediocre to the poor.
Yeah, there's a core selection of characters that each chapter of the novels focuses on and tells the story from their perspective. For example, the chapters of Book 1 alternate between Holden and Miller's perspectives, and each subsequent novel is done in a similar style, though they gradually expand up to four point-of-view characters as the series goes on.
We get cast interviews on InnerSpace. No, I can't even pretend to be excited about that.
Well he seem to be the main villain for now along with Jules-Pierre Mao.
I've since gotten a copy with uncensored language and feel that I might need to do that going forward. It's not as surreal bad as the TV copy of The Wolf of Wall Street I saw the other day but it does play better with the occasional emphasis.
I guess it's just easier for Syfy to deal with one copy than to put the uncensored versions on for the after-hours repeat or OnDemand showings. I'm sure that has something to do with money somehow, probably to keep people watching the main viewing. I'm curious why The Magicians was able to avoid that restriction in the same timeslot.
I guess it's just easier for Syfy to deal with one copy than to put the uncensored versions on for the after-hours repeat or OnDemand showings. I'm sure that has something to do with money somehow, probably to keep people watching the main viewing. I'm curious why The Magicians was able to avoid that restriction in the same timeslot.
Would have thought broadcast at 10pm on Wednesday night definitely wouldn't have been an issue.
Of course part of the probably for cable channels like SyFy and Space is they will air the episode a number of times in the following week and sometimes this can bite them as can be seen from the Trek Today article where there was a problem with a repeat airing of Discovery.
^ It's on at 9PM EST where I am.
The 10PM thing is a broadcast-only deal in the USA AFAIK, it's only self-imposed on cable channels, even if many of them opt to show their more graphic programs later.
The 10PM thing is a broadcast-only deal in the USA AFAIK, it's only self-imposed on cable channels, even if many of them opt to show their more graphic programs later.
and 9pm Eastern here.
Normally watch from the Tivo recording so mixed up The Expanse being at 9pm with Krypton which airs at 10pm.
Yeah, but he's not a very charismatic villain. I mean, it wasn't until late last season that I even started to get a sense of Errinwright as a distinct character rather than just part of the gaggle of interchangeable middle-aged white guys in the Earth-government scenes. I think it was only just this past week that I figured out the difference between Errinwright and that other guy who's senior to him, the one who's the old friend of Elizabeth Mitchell's character. They're both so bland I couldn't tell them apart.
Wow! That's surprising. I thought it was very obvious. I like Errinwright's character. He's a slippery one!
Actually that was the first run broadcast. Disco's new episodes aired on Space Sunday nights, 8PM EST, which is too early for profanity. However, when Disco had that episode with Tilly's excited "this is really fucking cool" line it went unedited, an intentional choice by Space who felt Trekkies would have lynched them for hacking up their episode, but apparently has landed them in trouble with broadcast authorities all the same.
Damn I really should watch more tv live - I keep confusing the time that shows are broadcast.
Though weren't there a few shits before then or maybe they weren't as clear in the dialogue?
But we have violence, nudity, graphic surgery, necks being broken and yet that's okay in the timeslot? Given that the show always did carry the content warnings (just like The Expanse does) maybe people should actually heed them.
Fun fact, during daytime hours the only words that are required to be censored on Canadian TV are "fuck" and "cock." I learned this while watching episodes of Trailer Park Boys that were edited for afternoon broadcasts. The typical episode of that show has every swear word imaginable in it, and those were the only two that got censored.
Apparently.
Sadly, this is not the first time people have complained about the content in a show despite the content warnings, and it likely won't be the last.
Ah that would explain some of the censorship in Mr Robot.
I'm not watching Season 3 because I've just gotten into the series, but I really like the show.
The fact that it's "Hard Sci-Fi", for the most part, sets it apart from a lot of my other favorite Sci-Fi TV series, with the closest analogue I can think of to it being Babylon 5, but I also love the Noir elements of it as well.
The fact that it's "Hard Sci-Fi", for the most part, sets it apart from a lot of my other favorite Sci-Fi TV series, with the closest analogue I can think of to it being Babylon 5, but I also love the Noir elements of it as well.
I thought of one other posibility for why The Magicians allows the fucks to stay in but not The Expanse. I'm not positive, but I believe The Expase is regularly only TV-14 (the American TV equivalent to PG-13), while The Magicians has always been TV-MA (equivalent to R). If the Expanse left the uncensored fucks in, I'm pretty sure they'd have to move it up to TV-MA which could potentially lose them viewers, and maybe even sponsors.
B5 didn't come very close to hard science fiction except in its treatment of space technology and space combat physics. A lot of it was quite fanciful, like all the telepath stuff, the humanoid aliens, the absurd notion that lifespan or health is the function of how much of a "life energy" reserve a person has left in the tank, stuff like that.
I don't think there's ever been an American space SF show as "hard" as The Expanse. Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda was pretty hard SF in its first season or so, but degenerated into fanciful nonsense when its original staff was fired or left. Stargate Universe had some pretty credible science compared to most stuff out there, and SG-1 occasionally did as well ("Tangent" is probably the best-ever TV portrayal of light-speed time lag in interplanetary communications), but it was alongside more fanciful elements.
^ The Expanse is definitely far "harder" Sci-Fi than B5, but that's really the closest analogue that I could think of.
I found this article which is interesting:
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/the-magicians-syfy-f-word-basic-cable-language-fx-usa-1201923587/
It makes it sound like The Magicians was TV-14 when it aired its original censored format. However, what you're saying may be right in that the distribution contracts they mention might prevent showing The Expanse in a TV-MA format without renegotiation.
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