Consistency with the rest of Star Trek?
It seems there is a reason for the visual reboot and the producers aren't being honest about it.
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Well if you're going to spend six months before the show starts going out of your way to assure fandom that it's Prime Universe and will match up completely, you owe it to yourself to be truthful and try to match up completely, to avoid looking like a liar. Instead, this show has a visual style that is not only completely different from TOS, but completely different from everything else in the Trek franchise.
I personally think it fits in with the USS Kelvin ok.
Go ahead, "reimagine" it. Totally cool, and a good idea.
Just don't shit in our hands and tell us it's a potato.
Most of the visual design of this series is lame - dull, derivative, a mishmash of cues borrowed from older Star Trek shows and movies for the apparent sake of fan service jammed together with arbitrary and sometimes preposterous choices. There have been gods know how many visual revisions and reinventions of Trek over the decades, some minor and a couple pretty much across the board, and this is the least worthy.
Just don't shit in our hands and tell us it's a potato.
Most of the visual design of this series is lame - dull, derivative, a mishmash of cues borrowed from older Star Trek shows and movies for the apparent sake of fan service jammed together with arbitrary and sometimes preposterous choices. There have been gods know how many visual revisions and reinventions of Trek over the decades, some minor and a couple pretty much across the board, and this is the least worthy.
LCARS for instance was forward thinking, futuristic, and iconic. In the early days it was affordable to build into sets, and not very dynamic in terms of motion - but it helped you recognise Starfleet from other species technology.
The displays on Discovery are boring, could come from any sci-fi show, and the only tie to Trek is the use of Microgamma/Eurostile typeface which has now become a cliché of futuristic designs.
The "brutalist" interior design aesthetic, is ok on its own, but without the accoutrements of Trek, would not stand out from other sci-fi shows. The Uniforms could come from other Sci-Fi too. So the show has to rely on easter-eggs and the occasional reference in order to fit it into the established world/era - whilst not adding anything iconic or worthy to the canon so far.
I guess that's OK, though I think they stand out well enough to me
The designs are less concerning to me as the characters. i certainly like the visuals, and they flow for me from ENT to the USS Kelvin to Discovery, but that is less of priority for me to enjoy the show.
That's not a enough of a reason. It ties Trek to the past with anvil and then tosses it into the ocean.
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Yep.
And those uniforms are the silliest things I've ever seen. "Put a lot of gold and silver stuff all over it" was a low-budget science fiction movie cliche in the 1950s.
Trek has very rarely featured uniforms that look like people might reasonably work in them all day. Enterprise probably did it best.
And those uniforms are the silliest things I've ever seen. "Put a lot of gold and silver stuff all over it" was a low-budget science fiction movie cliche in the 1950s.
Trek has very rarely featured uniforms that look like people might reasonably work in them all day. Enterprise probably did it best.
Mirror Universe is OTT. At least she didn't have a bare midriff.
Mirror Universe is OTT. At least she didn't have a bare midriff.
I can enjoy a little camp, but it surprised me to see that degree of it in a modern sci-fi show. That's Lost in Space-level camp, and even Lost in Space isn't doing that anymore.
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Although consistent with TOS, DS9 and ENT! Minus the bare midriffs, of course.
It’s perfect for post VI funnily enough.
That’s lady Arachnia.
Wait till you see Satan’s robot.
Design-wise, I thought Discovery's take on the Mirror Universe was campier than what we got back in the '60s, the heyday of camp. It looks like that deliberately (and outrageously) camp Flash Gordon movie.
It's the jacket. It really pushes Phillipa's outfit over the top.
I can enjoy a little camp, but it surprised me to see that degree of it in a modern sci-fi show. That's Lost in Space-level camp, and even Lost in Space isn't doing that anymore.
Lost In Space is a nice show - that's it, just kind of nice - and it's head and shoulders above STD in every respect.
Except, clearly, for blingy OTT evil universe costumes.
I think it's more than that -- it's a well-done take on a type of show you don't see very much nowadays. Whether audiences want that type of show, we'll have to see. Discovery certainly tried to go in another direction.
I wasn't judging the value of consistency vs. reimagining, just answering the question that was asked. I think a few things could've been reimagined better but I've mostly come to terms with it as is.
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