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My Long Anakin Critique I'd Love Your Opinion On

HugeLobes

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This is a long post, but I’m eager to hear what people think. There’s plenty of posts on here about why people don’t like the prequels, but I think the main reason is that they fail at their most basic goal: showing how Anakin became Darth Vader. I’ll attempt to get my point across, but it necessarily covers over a thousand words.

What we have here is a tale of three Anakins:
  • Ultra-Positive TPM Anakin
  • Murderous Idiot AOTC/ROTS Anakin
  • Intelligent, Nuanced OT Darth Vader.
None of those characters form any logical connection with each other, and that’s the underlying problem with the prequels. Let’s break it down.

Young Anakin: The Blank

I’m going to compare TPM Anakin to John Connor from Terminator 2. Plenty of similarities between the two:
  • John Connor was 10. Anakin was 9.
  • Portraying characters already established as important in previous movies
  • Portraying characters prophesied to save humanity/the galaxy.
  • Come from bad places.
Thing is, John Conner actually seems like a product of his environment.

At first, John seems like a total shit. He steals. He mouths off to his foster parents. He rides some shitty bike around. But his character becomes more sympathetic as the movie unfolds. You learn:

  • His mother is in a mental institution after trying to convince him of what must have seemed ridiculous lies. This would fuck with his mind while giving him a sense of self-importance and, more importantly, a sense of responsibility.
  • He grew up off the grid. This is why he seems unable to adjust to the normal rules of society.
  • His mother constantly alienated potential father figures by telling them about the future. This reinforces his lack of trust in authority figures and his sense of abandonment.
This all informs John’s character. His sense of responsibility prompts a strong moral code. His off-grid lifestyle makes it believable when he can help load guns and take independent action. His lack of a father figure reinforces his connection with the terminator and makes his ultimate sacrifice of that figure more important.

The very thing that initially makes Conner annoying (his arrogance and boldness) is exactly what lets him function as a hero in this story. Now that’s a well-rounded character.

Now we have Anakin. We’re told he’s a slave, but:

He has a pretty nice little house with his own room.
His mother doesn’t seem to work and isn’t poorly treated
He has enough spare time/resources to build racing pods and protocol droids.
He has a little group of friends his own age.
He seems to be let off work to go play at reasonable hours.

Never has a character been more divorced from their reality. He shows a touch of annoyance about his situation, but he doesn’t seem to have father issues or feel unhappy. Honestly, he would seem a little too happy-go-lucky and positive if he was living in a 1950s sitcom.

John Connor’s rounded personality comes from his natural reaction to his situation, and it allows his actions to make sense within the story, and you can totally see how he’d grow into a mature, respected, and successful leader. Anakin's personality is flat and uninteresting because he seems totally divorced from his reality. Where John's character perfectly informs his development, there’s nothing to connect this Anakin to the man he’s supposed to become.

Let’s compare against just one issue in Luke's development:

  • In ANH, Luke clearly longs for a father figure. He’s desperate to hear about his own father, and he clearly latches on to Kenobi as a father figure. That father figure is then killed by the man Luke thinks killed his real father.
  • In ESB, part of Luke’s desire to become a Jedi stems from a heroic view of this father, a part of his motivation is to defeat Vader. He fails to do that, then learns that this is his real father.
  • In ROTJ, Luke’s initial desire to become a Jedi because of his father is complicated by Yoda’s insistence that he needs to kill his real father (“then, and only then, a Jedi will you be”). He then needs to fight his father while keeping his anger in check and attempting to bring him back.
This theme is reasonably subtle, but it’s a key part of what makes Luke’s journey and particularly his clashes with Vader so powerful and interesting. If he didn’t ask about his father as much in ANH or form a strong bond with Obi-Wan, the rest of the story wouldn’t have been as interesting.

Maybe young Anakin could have formed such a relationship with Qui Gon and seemed really pissed or upset when he was killed? Instead, he doesn’t really seem to bond with Qui Gon and shows very little sadness at his funeral. His only line is “what will happen to me now?”I guess you could say he talks about wishing he could leave Tatooine, but this doesn't actually come across because his character is so upbeat and positive.

Luke talked about wanting to leave, but his frustration was better conveyed by his obvious reaction to all his friends leaving. On paper, he had a far better life than Anakin, and yet it's his frustrations we feel because his character is well developed and portrayed.

Overall, there’s no narrative strand that connects young Anakin to either old Anakin or Darth Vader. Nothing we are shown of Anakin in TPM connects with his later development or informs his decision to become Darth Vader. He could have been missing entirely from this movie and it would have made no difference. From a story-telling point of view, he’s a total blank.

The Immediate Dark Side

People say the prequels show how Anakin turned to the dark side, but they don’t. When we leave Anakin in TPM, he’s obnoxiously idealistic despite supposedly being in a bad place. When we meet Anakin in AOTC, he’s petulant, mean-spirited, and arrogant. He sticks out like a sore thumb among all these virtuous Jedi.

Just as young Anakin is utterly at odds with his situation as a slave, older Anakin is utterly at odds with his position in this elite group devoted to goodness and order.

Whatever happened to turn absurdly positive and helpful young Anakin into murderous, unpleasant older Anakin is never shown. Even in AOTC, Anakin seems to be spoiling for the dark side. Like it seems as if he was pretty much okay with going dark without the Padme thing. It would have been pretty disconcerting to see Luke Skywalker kill a room full of young children in ROTJ, but I get nothing in ROTS because Anakin already committed mass murder in AOTC. Even when he kills those Tuskans in AOTC, I'm not exactly holding my hand over my mouth thinking 'wow, this seems so out of character for such a noble, pleasant person'. You know, quite the opposite.

There’s a clumsy attempt to make Anakin’s fear of losing his loved ones what makes him turn, but throughout AOTC and ROTS it mostly seems like he’s an arrogant prick who wants to be more powerful for the sake of his own ego.

In no way do the prequels show what happened to turn a good man into an evil henchman. Anything of relevance to that story happened offscreen between TPM and AOTC.

Saying older Anakin was ‘seduced by the dark side of the force’ is like saying ‘I seduced my dog into eating this food’.

The Anakin/Vader Disconnect

Finally, the main problem: Anakin is nothing like Darth Vader.

Vader is cold, collected, and efficient. Yes, he kills people, but the force choke worked because of how impersonal it was. Vader didn’t seem to be getting off on choking Admirals to death; they’d failed him, so he dispatched them with ruthless efficiency.

Vader is ‘a cunning warrior’. We see this in every fight. Against Obi-Wan, he’s relatively cautious. Against Luke in ESB, he’s always baiting Luke into getting angry. In ROTJ, this is even more pronounced.

Beyond that, Vader is generally intelligent, resourceful, and articulate. In the OT, he isn’t important to the Empire because he’s strong with the force or a good fighter. It’s his ability to get shit done that makes him useful – he’d probably have been just as useful if he had no force abilities at all. Vader is just as cunning fighting a large-scale campaign as he is crossing sabres with a Jedi.

Then we have Anakin, who honestly seems borderline retarded. He’s laughably easy to mislead and never shows an ounce of intelligence. Far from a ‘cunning warrior’, he routinely rushes in without thinking and gets his ass kicked. He’s clumsy with his words and seems utterly incapable of concealing his anger or keeping it in check when venting will clearly turn people against him.

While Vader is an intelligent adversary who rarely seems to use his force abilities to help the Empire, Anakin is a complete buffoon who just happens to have a high midichlorian count. One of the key problems with the prequels is that force ability is only shown through fighting, so Anakin’s sole virtue seems to be his skill with a lightsabre. He just flies off the rails and starts it to kill anyone, which completely goes against what we know of Vader- in the OT, Vader only ever deigns to use his lightsabre when he’s fighting another Jedi.

Anakin is the pretty much the polar opposite of Darth Vader. No matter how hard I try, I cannot look at Darth Vader and see Anakin. Some people will say the years between ROTS and ANH changed Anakin into Darth Vader, but that’s a huge change, and it kind of invalidates the entire point of the prequels since there’s no connection between these two characters.

The Bitter Conclusion

So, there you go. A lot of people would call this nit-picking, but I just see it as exploring the underlying issues. Anakin’s development is as poorly written as his ‘I hate sand’ speech.

On a scene-by-scene basic, he’s insufferable. Over the course of all three films, and as a bridge to the originals, he’s the most inconsistent character I’ve ever seen.
 
It's true the movies don't do the greatest job showing Anakin as being the heroic Jedi the OT claims he was. Part of the problem is that the movies focus on pivotal turning points on his descent to the Dark Side and never really show us what he was like in his typical day-to-day life. This is one aspect where Clone Wars helps out. We see Anakin in more of an everyday setting and see him as heroic Jedi who basically believed in doing the right thing, even if that sometimes meant taking a reckless path.
 
Part of the problem is that the movies focus on pivotal turning points on his descent to the Dark Side

That's the problem though. He's really unpleasant and arrogant right off the bat in AOTC, so the only turning point that really matters isn't addressed. By the end of the movie, he's massacred a whole village. Even if he seemed genuinely repentent, which is debatable, there's real no way to top that.

From halfway through the 2nd movie, we've already seen him commit a massacre. How can any turning point after that really have any impact?
 
Even worse than that, they even have another character tell him, "Eh, don't worry about it." If anything, Anakin murdering an entire village seems to get Padme to warm up to him. ;)
 
And what about the manupulaitions from Palpatine for over 10 years from the moment he left his mother and lost his surrogate father, Qui-Gon.
 
You did show a lot of restraint when Tusken Raiders abducted, tortured and ultimately killed your mother. I have to give you credit for that.

Lol, fair point. But even so, he isn't a nice person before this happens. If he'd maybe been expressly forbidden to go back as a child the whole mother thing would have been a decent reason for his distrusting the jedi, and then her death would have been an interesting plot point going into episode 3 since he would blame them.

In any case, a massacre like that seems too huge to be a step towards the dark side. It's just a straight-up act of evil.
 
Even worse than that, they even have another character tell him, "Eh, don't worry about it." If anything, Anakin murdering an entire village seems to get Padme to warm up to him. ;)
That always gets to me. Talking about murdering Tusken women and children seems to get Anakin to second base with Padme in AOTC, but then in ROTS when Obi-Wan tells her about Anakin slaughtering the Jedi Younglings, she reacts shocked and insists "but Annie could never do that!" Then later on, when Anakin does confirm to her what he did at the Jedi temple her reaction is "I don't even know who you are anymore!" This is literally the same man you fell in love with, doing the same thing that made you love him. Don't act so damn surprised.
 
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That always gets to me. Talking about murdering Tusken women and children seems to get Anakin to second base with Padme in AOTC, but then in ROTS when Obi-Wan tells her about Anakin slaughtering the Jedi Younglings, she reacts shocked and insists "but Annie could never do that!" Then later on, when Anakin does confirm to her what he did at the Jedi temple her reaction is "I don't even know who you are anymore!" This is literally the same man you fell in love with, doing the same thing that made you love him. Don't act so damn surprised.
Here's the thing about that: Padme knows exactly bugger all about Sand People other than that they're a bunch of savage wasteland creatures that kidnap and murder people. She's lacking the full context of what he's done. In her mind it's probably less like a village of native people and more like a nest of vicious gundarks.
 
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Here's the thing about that: Padme knows exactly bugger all about Sand People other than that they're a bunch of savage wasteland creatures that kidnap and murder people. She's lacking the full context of what he's done. In her mind it's probably less like a village of native people and more like a nest of vicious gundarks.

Okay, this is classic prequel denial. Here's the scene:
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Within the context of that scene, it's obvious Sand People are much like regular people. I mean, you don't usually refer to 'men', 'women', or 'children' when you're talking about animals. Also:

"They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!"

That is a super weird thing to say about something that isnt sentient. I guess Owen says they are "mindless" (God, this thread has me watching prequel clips), but that's about it.

It's really obvious from Anakin's speech that Sand People are more than just creatures. Even if Padme did think they were 'more like a nest of vicious gundarks', the way Anakin acts in this scene would have been enough to make any sensible girl run for the hills.

End of the day, this is just terrible writing and poor characterization.
 
Even worse than that, they even have another character tell him, "Eh, don't worry about it." If anything, Anakin murdering an entire village seems to get Padme to warm up to him. ;)
Maybe Padme likes bad boys.


@HugeLobes, that is an interesting critique of the Anakin character. You made a lot of sense.

It didn't help matters that Anakin was played by Hayden Christiansen. First of all, HC was a lightweight, so it wasn't surprising that Anakin came across as one. Lucas should have picked an actor with more gravitas. What HC did well was mope, but that style of acting was awful for the character imho.

I realize that a better actor probably wouldn't have been able overcome the weak writing that went into the character, but a better actor might have gotten half the equation right. I think that would have been a significant improvement to the character, for what it's worth. At least it wouldn't have been a total loss.

As it stands, the character was largely a failure for the reasons that you mentioned, in both the writing and acting side of things.
 
Thanks!

Tbf, I think HC tends to get a bad rap . I'm not saying he's an amazing actor, but he's a long way from awful. Lucas didn't really give his actors much flexibility in the prequels. Even Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman have some really awful moments as they works their way around the writing. I mean, that scene I linked above is awful, but HC's acting is pretty good.

At least his life was ruined quite as much as Jake Lloyd's...
 
Okay, this is classic prequel denial. Here's the scene:
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Within the context of that scene, it's obvious Sand People are much like regular people. I mean, you don't usually refer to 'men', 'women', or 'children' when you're talking about animals. Also:

"They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!"

That is a super weird thing to say about something that isnt sentient. I guess Owen says they are "mindless" (God, this thread has me watching prequel clips), but that's about it.

It's really obvious from Anakin's speech that Sand People are more than just creatures. Even if Padme did think they were 'more like a nest of vicious gundarks', the way Anakin acts in this scene would have been enough to make any sensible girl run for the hills.

End of the day, this is just terrible writing and poor characterization.
You're thinking about it too much in a modern, real world context.
Remember that this is a space fantasy fairy tale and Tatooine is basically the old west. No, not the real, historical old west; the fictional, mythologised old west. In that context, the concept of a native people who are perceived as savage and little more than animals makes more sense.
Now, that's not to say this is what the Tuskens actually are, just how the settlers perceive them and since Padme had nothing else to go on, probably accepted that assessment at face value. It's a big galaxy after all.

Also recall that here own people had long had an antagonistic relationship to their own native population until *very* recently. Luckily for them, the Gungans were merely stand-offish, not inherently violent, whereas the Sand People appear to be nothing but.
 
You're thinking about it too much in a modern, real world context.
Remember that this is a space fantasy fairy tale and Tatooine is basically the old west. No, not the real, historical old west; the fictional, mythologised old west. In that context, the concept of a native people who are perceived as savage and little more than animals makes more sense.
Now, that's not to say this is what the Tuskens actually are, just how the settlers perceive them and since Padme had nothing else to go on, probably accepted that assessment at face value. It's a big galaxy after all.

Also recall that here own people had long had an antagonistic relationship to their own native population until *very* recently. Luckily for them, the Gungans were merely stand-offish, not inherently violent, whereas the Sand People appear to be nothing but.

Ah yes, I can just imagine Lucas writing the script.

'Ok, so Anakin is shouting about murdering men, women, and children. Shouldn't Padme be reacting to this? No, in this context a native people will be percieved as savage and little more than animals. Padme will just accept that on face value, and the audience will understand without any supporting statements from Padme.'

See, there's nothing in the script that really supports your claim. This is a movie Lucus specifically said was made for children, who wouldn't get these apparent cultural subtlies. I really think you're just making things up that aren't there.

Ultimately, there's really no way to understand Padme's actions, even if what you're saying is true. Either:
  • Padme Understands Tuskens Are Basically People: In which case she views Anakin as a mass murderer.
  • Padme Thinks Tuskens Are Animals and Little Better than Savages: In which case Anakin's crazed talk of 'slaughtering them like animals' and 'hating them' just sounds super weird by itself.
This is what I don't get about the prequels. Like, I love Return of the Jedi, but I'l admit that ewoks beating stormtroppers was stupid. I'm not going to start talking about how it totally makes sense because actually the ewoks have lived here forever and developed into unstoppable forest warriors with traps all across the planet.
 
It's got nothing to do with the script; Tatooine as a stand-in for the mythical old west has been baked into the imagery and cinematic vocabulary of Star Wars since the very beginning. None of it is reflected in the script because it is quite literally subtextual. I'm not claiming that Padme shouldn't have been alarmed, just that her own prejudices blinded her to the full implications of what Anakin did.

Re-frame that scene in your mind for a second, and imagine that it's literally a scene out of a John Ford western like 'The Searchers' (which probably not coincidentally has a similar plot) and all of a sudden, Padme's reaction seems a lot more natural. Context matters.
 
I mean, there's a flavor of the Old West to Tatooine, but that's it. You're saying the audience should implicitly understand Padme's actions based the very barest of subtexts? You're giving Lucas way too much credit and basically just making up excuses for lazy writing.

Instead of confronting what we're actually told, you're suggesting that the audience will connect Tatooine with the Old West, understand the relationship between settlers and natives, then apply those believes to Padme to excuse her actions. Context matters, but it can only go so far.

The simplest solution is usually the right one, and by far the simplest solution here is that Lucas didn't follow that very strange path of logic and instead just fumbled Padme's reaction.

It's got nothing to do with the script

Nope, just wishful thinking.

Hey, I know, maybe Palpatine was secretly controlling Padme's mind to make sure she fell in love with Anakin so he could eventually become Darth Vader?
 
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Now we have Anakin. We’re told he’s a slave, but:

He has a pretty nice little house with his own room.
His mother doesn’t seem to work and isn’t poorly treated
He has enough spare time/resources to build racing pods and protocol droids.
He has a little group of friends his own age.
He seems to be let off work to go play at reasonable hours.

Never has a character been more divorced from their reality. He shows a touch of annoyance about his situation, but he doesn’t seem to have father issues or feel unhappy.

Well, he is in a PG-rated film in a space fantasy series (although the series does have PG-13 moments), not a R-rated military sci-fi/apocalyptic film series. I guess TPM could have instead been a lot more PG-13 but too much strong PG-13, let alone R, would probably feel too dark too soon, not feeling innocent before the darker times.
Too hard and bitter a childhood could make it a little too obvious that Anakin was doomed to go bad (although it would be impressive if he still was likeable enough that it was surprising).

Where John's character perfectly informs his development, there’s nothing to connect this Anakin to the man he’s supposed to become.

I think it makes more sense for young Anakin to be more indicative of young Luke than Vader (Obi-Wan is supposed to initially be impressed and friends with Anakin before his turn) although he could have had some more flaws and potential flaws.

I guess you could say he talks about wishing he could leave Tatooine, but this doesn't actually come across because his character is so upbeat and positive.

Nothing we are shown of Anakin in TPM connects with his later development or informs his decision to become Darth Vader.

He also says he wants to someday return to Tatooine and free the slaves, promises to his mom he will free her, a big contrast with Qui-Gon saying he's reluctant to even free one slave (not his mission), it's clear that Anakin wants to become a Jedi to get and use power although as an altruist.

When we meet Anakin in AOTC, he’s petulant, mean-spirited, and arrogant. He sticks out like a sore thumb among all these virtuous Jedi.

Whatever happened to turn absurdly positive and helpful young Anakin into murderous, unpleasant older Anakin is never shown. Even in AOTC, Anakin seems to be spoiling for the dark side.

I'm not sure about mean-spirited but yes, he is a lot less virtuous and pleasant and too much of why and how he became that way is skipped over. All we basically get is that he feels the Jedi, specifically Obi-Wan, are holding him back from increasing and using his power.

There’s a clumsy attempt to make Anakin’s fear of losing his loved ones what makes him turn, but throughout AOTC and ROTS it mostly seems like he’s an arrogant prick who wants to be more powerful for the sake of his own ego.

It could have been done better but I don't think the desire is just pettiness and ego, the films could have conveyed better that the galaxy does have problems & injustices and it is noble/reasonable to want power to fix them.

Vader is generally intelligent, resourceful, and articulate. In the OT, he isn’t important to the Empire because he’s strong with the force or a good fighter. It’s his ability to get shit done that makes him useful – he’d probably have been just as useful if he had no force abilities at all. Vader is just as cunning fighting a large-scale campaign as he is crossing sabres with a Jedi.

I disagree that Vader, though I would say he is intelligent, is depicted as a strong military strategist or great military commander, although he does command the troops, or even if he is that that's a major part of the character.
 
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