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Reasons not to join the Federation? (shameless fan video plug)

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Someone wanting to alter history might be able to do so undisturbed in some empires. I'm sure there are many places the Federation simply not go to.
 
The Federation is no more than a 'homo sapiens' only club.
We know where this is leading. The annihilation of our culture.

-- The Klingons, c. 2293
 
Eddington sums it up best
Everyone should want to be in the Federation. Hell, you even want the Cardassians to join. You're only sending them replicators because one day they can take their rightful place on the Federation Council. You know, in some ways you're worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it.
 
Eddington's remarks always seemed rather extreme I thought. It's not like they're forced to stay. They can leave at any time.
 
I think that could have made for an interesting episode ... a member world seceding from the Federation. (To me, the maquis arc felt more like the Federation abandoning/sacrificing the interests of a minority group.)
 
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The Ktarian homeworld was "ejected" from the Federation for showing sympathy to the Maquis, but that's the closest we ever got to any Federation worlds actually leaving. In on screen canon, that is. The novels of course had the whole Andorian secession storyline.
 
Is there any canonical source to say a member can't leave the UFP should they wish to do so?
When do we see this?

Reasons not to join in the first place?

While I see the Federation as this interstellar association that you join and you retain complete sovereignty, some fans have posted that what they believe is that essentially the Federation is a internally powerful nation/state, and after joining you become a political sub-division of the Federation.

Who in their right mind would join that?

And if that were so, would you have the power to leave, given that you no longer are allowed to make independent decisions?

Other reasons not to join.

Joining the Federation means on the first day you gain a list of powerful enemies.

If a planet has suffered a disaster and your people choose to render assistance, being a Federation member might mean you would not be allowed to do so (prime directive).

The Federation is near endlessly at war with someone somewhere, after joining you would automatically be apart of that.
 
If you join the Federation you make an enemy of The Klingons and The Romulans straight away! Plus many other races of debateable nefariousness! Plus do you have to provide the Federation with money, supplies, weaponry, troops? I mean they ain't going to protect you for nothing are they?
JB
 
There was the Evora in Star Trek Insurrection. They seemed eager to join the Federation, even though it likely would have made them a target for the Dominion.
 
It was made at the time of DS9 and the conflict so I'm guessing they were cashing in on their sister show's popularity?
JB
 
There's the line about Dominion negotiations, a line about ketracel-white and Picard's line about not abandoning the Federation to those who would threaten it.
 
I guess it would depend on the autonomy and responsibilities you would have as a member. I suppose the greatest assets are protection from other hostile empires while being part of a relatively free society with access to potentially greater technology than your own. What does it cost you though?

To me it isn't clear on screen what constitutes your duties as a member. Does the federation have access to your minerals? Is there a recruitment quota? Is there some other "tithe" you must "pay" in terms of resources? It seems to me that at least in TOS, if you have a resource that another planet needs you have to cough it up. Otherwise you seem to be able to handle your own affairs internally without interference. The episode with the spire dwellers and miners comes to mind.
 
It was made at the time of DS9 and the conflict so I'm guessing they were cashing in on their sister show's popularity?
JB

Not really cashing in, more like they kinda had to reference this devastating war that's happening at the same time as their movie. Like a movie with American GIs stationed on a Pacific island in 1943 might have to mention World War II at some point.
 
guess it would depend on the autonomy and responsibilities you would have as a member. I suppose the greatest assets are protection from other hostile empires while being part of a relatively free society with access to potentially greater technology than your own. What does it cost you though?
If the Federation is a collection of sovereign entinies, then there could be a requirement to come to each others aid, and to pay into a fund for defense (starfleet?). the Nato treaty says that member nations agree to spend a certain percentage of their GNP on their own defense, but there no force behind the agreement.

Ardana was require to provide/sell minerals to a fellow Federation member. Kirk spoke directly to this.
Not really cashing in, more like they kinda had to reference this devastating war that's happening at the same time as their movie
My impression was that the Dominion war was over by the time of INS.
 
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