Spoilers Legion season 2

[The Nth Doctor]

I read somewhere that it was, but he's not an actor I'm very familiar with, so I didn't recognize the voice. I'm wondering if he's actually going to appear as a character. Wasn't there a thing last season where Oliver was narrating for a while before we discovered who he was?

Yeah, I believe so.

I find it surprising because I hadn't heard anything about his casting. Perhaps they deliberately kept it under wraps as a surprise? Maybe he's Charles Xavier?

The voice stood out because he sounded like Don Draper pitching a brilliant ad.

Edit: The A.V. Club review confirms that it was Jon Hamm.

 

[Christopher]

^Yeah, the AV Club review must be where I read it.

 

[Beagleman]

That was wonderful and the dance off was epic!

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I'm still swimming trying to readjust to the new status quo and everything. I did like the little scene with Kerry trying to sneak a peek.

 

[Set Harth]

A.V. Club posted a glowing review of the first four episodes, i.e. the first half of the season. Sounds very promising!

The New York Times reviewer also mentioned getting to see four episodes. Sucks for us mere peasants who will have to wait at least three more weeks for all of that.

 

[gblews]

The weirdness is back!

Yeah, I thought that was Hamm's voice. Can only hope that he does turn out to be Professo X or if not that, some other significant character.

Seems losing Oliver again has driven Melanie around the bend. Her scene with Syd was actually kind of amusing. The way she talked about him you'd think he had just run off with a Kardashian or something instead of having his mind hijacked by a mutant psychological parasite.

Yes, that little scene with Cary and Kerry was cute. Never can be too much of them.

Don't know why, because I'm totally unfamiliar with the comics, but I love whenever someone mentions the "astral plane". Just sounds cool to me.

After Lenny started to laugh in the pool, after she said "we're trapped", who was the head that was shown just before we saw Oliver, or am I not remembering the scene correctly?

Yes, the dance scene, this just one of the things that makes this show so unique. Love what the show does with music.

Ptonomy sounds all kinds of ominous and that, along with David's missing year, and future Syd's request, sets up what should be another edge of sanity ride.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I forgot to mention in this my earlier post, but in the scene where the leader of Division 3 (I'm blanking on his name) is shown outside of the headquarters with his mustached women, in the background there were two large, green, pointing hands floating in the air in the background. I'm not sure what to make of them, but they immediately made me think of the Dreadful Flying Glove in Yellow Submarine. I wonder if that allusion was deliberate or not.

After Lenny started to laugh in the pool, after she said "we're trapped", who was the head that was shown just before we saw Oliver, or am I not remembering the scene correctly?

You mean the dark-glassed man in Paris? That's Navid Negahban as Farouk in presumably his original form.

 

[Set Harth]

Maybe he's Charles Xavier?

That would surprise me. When David did a would-be Xavier voice in season 1 it sounded sort of like Patrick Stewart to me. It seemed like they were staying with Xavier having a British accent like in the movieverse.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

That would surprise me. When David did a would-be Xavier voice in season 1 it sounded sort of like Patrick Stewart to me. It seemed like they were staying with Xavier having a British accent like in the movieverse.

Hm, that's a good point. While I've dismissed the idea of Patrick Stewart or James McAvoy appearing (despite how much I would love either of them appearing), I had forgotten about David"s voice impression with the British accent.

 

[gblews]

You mean the dark-glassed man in Paris? That's Navid Negahban as Farouk in presumably his original form.

Whoa, glad I asked.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

it was really weird seeing Syd in the body of the cat and vice versa. I'm glad that David told her about her future self instead of them dragging it out too long. And Cary named dropped the Shi'ar. nice.

 

[Christopher]

And Cary named dropped the Shi'ar. nice.

When? I didn't notice that.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Yeah, I missed that as well.

 

[Set Harth]

He pronounced it shee-ar. Talking about the orb.

On an unrelated note, it was disappointing to hear Jon Hamm's narrator giving voice to tired old theocratic "animals don't have ideas about stuff" human-exclusionism.

Speaking of delusions taking hold and all that.

This show might consider following its own advice sometimes.

it was really weird seeing Syd in the body of the cat and vice versa.

They also did that in last week's episode.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I like how we got clarity on who Lenny actually was and how she exists now. Seems that if Farouk goes into another body as he collects minds, then perhaps Oliver will be able to continuing living if Division 3 succeeds in destroying his body? Also curious how Lenny was so certain Farouk is able to create her a new body and he didn't dissuade her of that notion (only that it might be better for her future existence to not to).

The Monk is the same guy we saw very briefly at the night club last week (i think during David's recollection of the event at the beginning of the episode).

The big pointing green hands still make me think of the Dreadful Flying Glove in Yellow Submarine.

it was really weird seeing Syd in the body of the cat and vice versa.

They also did that in last week's episode.

Yeah, but it was more extensive this time.

 

[Christopher]

I like how we got clarity on who Lenny actually was and how she exists now. Seems that if Farouk goes into another body as he collects minds, then perhaps Oliver will be able to continuing living if Division 3 succeeds in destroying his body?

Interesting that they're giving Farouk that attribute. In the comics, the whole reason David Haller is called Legion is because he had multiple people's minds trapped inside his.

Also curious how Lenny was so certain Farouk is able to create her a new body and he didn't dissuade her of that notion (only that it might be better for her future existence to not to).

If he could disintegrate people or turn them into pigs or fish with a wave of his hand, it stands to reason that he could create as well as destroy or transform.

The big pointing green hands still make me think of the Dreadful Flying Glove in Yellow Submarine.

Me too. What the hell were they supposed to be, anyway? At first I thought they were some decoration around the edges of the roof, but some of them looked like they were far larger and attached to more distant buildings.

 

[Forbin]

I'd have thought a cat would be more freaked out by finding itself in a human woman's body.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Interesting that they're giving Farouk that attribute. In the comics, the whole reason David Haller is called Legion is because he had multiple people's minds trapped inside his.

Ah, I didn't know that. I've read very few X-Men comics and none with Legion, so the extent of my knowledge of the character is from the show and maybe a little bit of background reading on Wikipedia.

If he could disintegrate people or turn them into pigs or fish with a wave of his hand, it stands to reason that he could create as well as destroy or transform.

Not inherently so. Destroying is always much easier than creating, especially when it comes to life. I don't discount that he might be able create a new body for Lenny, but I don't think there's any corelation between Farouk's ease of destruction and any ability to create life.

Me too. What the hell were they supposed to be, anyway? At first I thought they were some decoration around the edges of the roof, but some of them looked like they were far larger and attached to more distant buildings.

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks that. I think much like many things in this universe, it's one of those cosmetic elements that don't really serve much purpose but look "neat."

I'd have thought a cat would be more freaked out by finding itself in a human woman's body.

No way! A cat would be all cool and nonchalant as we saw. "Nothing to see here, human, leave me be."

 

[Christopher]

Not inherently so. Destroying is always much easier than creating, especially when it comes to life. I don't discount that he might be able create a new body for Lenny, but I don't think there's any corelation between Farouk's ease of destruction and any ability to create life.

Sure, that's true in general terms, but my point is, since we were already shown that his powers let him transmute matter, that laid the foundation for Lenny's revelation that he can apparently create bodies. It's a related ability, so it's not something they just tacked on without setting it up first.

Also, you'd have a point if we were just talking about destruction, but we're also talking about transformation. He changed a human being into a fully viable, living pig, and another into a fish that would presumably have been equally viable had it been in water. That's a lot more complex and precise than just tearing something apart. So if he has enough control over matter to do that, he could presumably do it in the other direction, and turn some animal into a new human body for Lenny.

 

[Set Harth]

So it's starting to look as if they're going in a Dawn of Justice direction with the plot, where there is a terrible future in which our hero has turned evil and laid waste to everything, and someone from that future sends a message back in time in order to alter the timeline and avert disaster. If in fact David himself is the future threat, it seems that after killing Farouk he ends up going full supervillain for some reason.